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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Roman Coins Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Minos on February 20, 2012, 10:08:33 am
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Don't think it has been announced here but a new (and apparently very rich from the few searches I've made) website have been launched lately.
This website forms the preliminary step to the revision of the Roman Imperial Coinage V.1. The database presented here applies to the reigns from 268 until 276 AD, that is, the reigns of Claudius Gothicus, Quintillus, Aurelian, Tacitus, Florianus, as well as the coinage of the princes of Palmyra, Vabalathus and Zenobia, issued by the imperial mint of Antioch. Thus, the period covers an important phase in the ‘3rd century crisis’ encountered by the Roman Empire, from the reign which symbolises its most critical point (Claudius Gothicus) to those which implemented the necessary takeover (Aurelian and his successors).
The additional information or corrections that we hope for from the scientific community will permit us to target a better, more comprehensive study for the corpus being prepared (RIC V.1/2), an objective which is particularly laborious to attain for this period of inflation in the coin production of money and of the diversification of the minting network.
The documentation assembled here is based chiefly on 12 main institutional collections of reference (Paris, London, Oxford, Vienna, Copenhagen, Milan, Budapest, Munich, Brussels, Cambridge, Berlin, New York) which have been exhaustively studied and digitized by agreement of their curators. They are hereby warmly thanked, for without them this work could never have been realised.
The database holds to date more than 4540 entries, based on 104,000 coins and more than 80,000 digital photographs.
The project has been financed since 2004 by CNRS programmes (Centre national de la recherche scientifique) : GDR, PICS Nummi et Cimelia, or ANR programmes (ANR MONetA) for which Sylviane Estiot is responsible.
Credit to Sylviane Estiot and Jérôme Mairat :)
http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/search
ADMIN NOTE: Forum refers to this online reference with the abbreviation MER-RIC.
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Thank you so much for the link...the website is extensive. Like many collectors, I started with a collection of Claudius Gothicus and no longer add to it but have an interest in this period.
I know I will turning to it often.
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Thank you so much Minos it is the very good and usable hompage...
best regards
quadrans
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I think this thread should be made sticky either here in Roman Coins or under Books and References.
I also suggest changing the title to "Pre-publication online version of new RIC V.1 for Claudius II, Quintillus, Aurelian, Tacitus, Florian, Vabalathus, and Zenobia".
That title I think better conveys the contents of this wonderful new resource, and the thread should be made sticky so that users will have no difficulty finding it!
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Perhaps this should be nominated for the Website awards?
Nick
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Hi Staff an all !
This site ar very nice .
I have a question all radiate coin of i.e. tacitus "Denomination: Aureliani" insted of Anoninian it is OK ??
regards
quadrans
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In some publications this name is used to designate post-Aurelian reform (274) antoninians.
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thanks septimus :)
quadrans
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We really don't know the name for the radiate denomination. The Antoninianus is a modern term coined after Caracalla. Some wish to differentiate between the coinage before and after the monetary reforms of Aurelian and thus have coined the phrase to represent those. This is not universally adopted.
Martin
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Logically, the denomination should be the "aurelianianus":
Antoninus, antoninianus, adding -ianus to the base Antonin-
Aurelianus, aurelianianus, adding -ianus to the base Aurelian-
An aurelianus would logically be a coin introduce by an Aurelius, not by an Aurelianus.
Years ago, there were some scholars who actually used "aurelianianus", but I don't know whether that form still persists!
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Hi staff!
question:
If I have a Probus coin in radiate bust it is Aureliani or Antoniniani or Proboiani :)))
quadrans
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I refer to a Probus radiate as an antoninianus (shortened to ant.) but some others would refer to it as an aurelianus. There is no strict answer to your question as far as I am aware.
Martin
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many thanks Martin and curtisclay ;)
If it is interesting somebody put this definition on the Numiswiki
regards
quadrans
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Will there be also a continue with a database for coins of Probus?
Regards,
Simon
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Yes, there will be a database including the thousands coins of Probus we collected in the institutional coin cabinets, private collections, coin hoards and sales, illustrated by their digital pics, but it is a long range work. There will be first the publication of the BNCMER XII.2, on the same model as BNCMER XII.1. Aurelian-Tacitus (S. Estiot, Paris-Strasbourg 2004), but which will publish not only the coins from Paris, Bibliothèque nationale together with a complete overview of the minting under Probus, but the collections in Vienna too, the most important collection for that period in the world.
S. Estiot
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Many thanks for your reply Sylviane.
So another great work awaits us. I am impatient to see all these coins that I did not know before.
I wish you all the best for your giant-project!
Regards,
Simon
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Amazing! I immediately searched for the reduced Sestertii. One has to search for an "as", as old catalogs list them.
This is a cool site.
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So great, thank you for the share of the link.
And, last but not least, everything is in English AND in French : it is not so common to have such a ressource in perfectly understandable language :angel:
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Can hardly wait for part II. This is a truly amazing feat of scholarship.
Roman numismatic history will one day be divided thus: BSE and ASE (Before Sylviane Estiot and After Sylviane Estiot).
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A great resource!
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Thanks for great source.
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Anything out there that updates RIC-V.2??
Shawn
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Yes, there will be a database including the thousands coins of Probus we collected in the institutional coin cabinets, private collections, coin hoards and sales, illustrated by their digital pics, but it is a long range work. There will be first the publication of the BNCMER XII.2, on the same model as BNCMER XII.1. Aurelian-Tacitus (S. Estiot, Paris-Strasbourg 2004), but which will publish not only the coins from Paris, Bibliothèque nationale together with a complete overview of the minting under Probus, but the collections in Vienna too, the most important collection for that period in the world.
S. Estiot
If it as half as good as the work you did on Tacitus, it will be spectacular!
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I submitted a specimen known only in one exemplar, but I haven't received any reply.
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The same for me. A new ex. Not listed, the last week.
Today I have sent a second specimen known of Quintillus... I hope that someone reply to my mail...
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new site... but the RIC online is disappeared! :o :o :o :o
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Hmmm, it does appear that the MER-RIC site is currently down. I have noticed that happen from time to time. Hopefully it will come up again soon.
Tracy
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https://www.hisoma.mom.fr/numismatique/index.htm
it looks like a website restyling... but no corpus online......
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There are no earlier versions on archive.orgs Wayback machine either, as far as I can see.
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I was able to get some hits for MER-RIC on the Wayback Machine. I had to search by the homepage URL, http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/home. The most recent archive was from July 25th, 2018. Of course that means that the information on MER-RIC is frozen to that date, and from that archived page I am unsure if the entire database can be searched.
I have done some exploration of https://www.hisoma.mom.fr/numismatique/index.htm as well as https://www.hisoma.mom.fr/numismatique/Moneta/moneta.htm. The references to MER-RIC that I stumbled across were all broken links.
When I get the time in the next few days I will email Sylviane Estiot and ask her if MER-RIC is temporarily down or if it is being redesigned/rebuilt. I will post any information that I find out.
Tracy
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I hope that the site come back. It's a great resource!
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MER-RIC is working again. I emailed Sylviane Estiot and she replied that the website had been down due to a technical difficulty.
Tracy
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:) ;) +++
Q.
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It would be tragic if we lost MER-RIC. I am so impressed with it, I am even updating the sold coin records (a bit at a time) with MER-RIC info.
Aurelian for example - https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=743&pos=0&sold=1 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=743&pos=0&sold=1)
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I agree Joe, MER-RIC is an incredible resource and extremely useful.
Tracy
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Hmmm must have only been down for maintenance or something. It is my main reference for all coins Tacitus