AE14 - Palm on Both Sides - Judean Coin?

[Pep]

Hello Everyone,

I have this coin here that I think is a Judean coin?  I posted it awhile back on the ID board but didn't get any answers so I'll try it here   I also darkened the pic, I agree that the original was way too bright (it looked fine on my old previous monitor )

It looks like there is a palm tree/branch on both sides of the coin.  There may be some sort of legend on either side but I can't make it out.  The measurements are 2.43g; 14.4mm.  Is this a Judean coin and/or what are the specifics on it?

Any help is appreciated,

Kevin

[Robert_Brenchley]

I can't see anything in Hendin with the crude palm tree on both faces.

[Ecgþeow]

If it is Judaean, The only coin that I found similar to it is Hendin 511.  This is a small (14-15 mm) coin of Herod Antipas (4 BCE - 40 CE).  It was struck at the Tiberius mint in 20 CE.  It has a reed nearly identical to yours, except it has more leaves.  Only the obverse has this reed, as the other side has a wreath with TIBE-PIAC in two lines.  Next to the reed is HP TETPAPXOY. 
It may be that this coin's obverse was struck on both sides, as the Judaeans are not known for exquisite coin minting, or it may be that I am totally wrong.  Maybe someone else  can corroborate my suggestion?

~Zach

[Salem Alshdaifat]

hi all this is for sure not Judaean coin, not at all.
I belive it might be Islamic coins
all the best
Salem

[Ecgþeow]

Hey Salem! haven't seen you on for a while! glad you're back.

yeah, my explaination didn't make much sense.  Islamic sounds more likely.

~Zach

[Manzikert]

Hi

It is an Ummayyad fals from Jund Filastin (Palestine), unknown mint, no.567 or 570 in the Tubingen Sylloge (depending on whether you believe the caption or the image name), see http://islamiccoins.ancients.info/umayyads/filastin/567SNATFilastin.JPG

Unfortunately I don't have that volume of SNAT, so I can't tell you which number it really is

Best wishes

Alan

[Ecgþeow]

was the palm tree still representative of Judaea during the Islamic period? 

[a]

In Umayyad and Abbasid period, the palm tree or palm branch was the symbol of Al-Ramla mint.

Explorer

[Pep]

Thank you everyone

For the date, I typed "Umayyad" and "Palestine" into the American Numismatic Society's search engine.  Based on the stylistic changes over time I see that a rough date of ca. 80-130AH (ca. 700-750AD) can be assigned to this coin, I hope I am right in that.

At least I initially got the palm tree/Judea association right

Kevin