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Offline Mark Z

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #175 on: May 12, 2019, 03:03:48 am »
Harry,

I was just looking over my list of the coins needed to fill/finish my collection. Seems like when I concentrate on one coin, I get it, so I'm going to concentrate on Nepotian for now. Fingers crossed.

Hang in there and those coins will start coming your way, too :)

Regards,
mz



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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #176 on: January 01, 2020, 01:57:00 am »
Hello All!

I wanted to wish all of you great people here on FORVM a very Happy New Year! You good folks are never far from my thoughts. All the best to you all of you in 2020!

Regards,
Mark Zema

PS Hoping to bring more coins to you in 2020, too! :)

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #177 on: January 01, 2020, 09:57:17 am »
Happy New Year Mark, nice to see you back on FORVM.

Very Best Wishes,

Alex

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #178 on: January 02, 2020, 03:58:07 pm »
+ 1  +++

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #179 on: March 30, 2020, 08:51:17 pm »
Happy New Year Mark, nice to see you back on FORVM.

Very Best Wishes,

Alex

Alex,

Thank you! :-)

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #180 on: March 30, 2020, 08:52:19 pm »
Quote from: quadrans on January 02, 2020, 03:58:07 pm
Happy New Year Mark, nice to see you back on FORVM.

Very Best Wishes,

Alex

+ 1  +++

 Joe/Q.

Hey Joe!

Hope all is well! :-)

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #181 on: March 30, 2020, 08:59:12 pm »
Hello Friends!

I've added another coin to my collection:

Nepotian. Usurper, AD 350.
AE22mm, 4.59 g. Rome mint.
Obverse: FL NEP CONST-ANTINVS AVG, rosette-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Nepotian right
Reverse: GLORIA ROMANORVM, Nepotian on horseback right, spearing enemy; shield and broken spear beneath the horse, star in upper right field. Mintmark RS.
RIC VIII 200 var. (legend and bust type); LRBC 643 var. (ditto). (From Wildwinds)
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The Usurper Nepotian was emperor for only 28 days, which explains the rarity of his coins. The dating of his usurpation is controversial. Traditionally it is dated to the year 350. Curtis Clay argued with good arguments for dating to the year 351. So far, there is no compelling argument for one of the two dates, but Aurelius Victor and the Epitome de Caesaribus support Curtis Clay's dating.

Your comments are appreciated!

mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #182 on: March 31, 2020, 02:26:23 am »
Sorry to note some problems on your coin:

I read obverse: FL NEP CONST...
And not laureate but rosette diademed.

Hair and beard looks tooled.

Pekka K

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #183 on: April 01, 2020, 02:46:34 pm »
The good news is that the dating issue is clearly settled on 351.  All the evidence is laid out in my Koinon I article which can be found here:

Redating Nepotian's Usurpation and the Coinage of Magnentius

The bad news is that, after studying every Nepotian image I could find when writing my article, I am left with the opinion that there is a lot more tooling on your than the beard - the beard, hair, diadem, bust details, nose, field and lettering on the obverse all show worrying signs.  The rear has less problems but is still of concern.

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #184 on: April 01, 2020, 05:09:48 pm »
Shawn,

A heavily tooled coin is definitely not something I want in my collection.

I will have to consider my options at this point.

Thank you for your reply and expertise!

Regards,
mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #185 on: June 22, 2020, 07:59:57 pm »
Hello All!

You may remember that I had won a coin of Nepotian at auction a few months ago and posted it here.

Admittedly, I got caught up in the excitement of finding this rare coin and I didn't inspect the pictures as well as I should have.

Thankfully, the great people here on FORVM left comments correcting the error of my ways, as I had acquired a heavily tooled coin, something I'd prefer not to have in my little collection.

Today, after three months, the auction house, while not admitting/agreeing that the coin had been tooled, granted my request for a full refund.

So I'm out only about $20 US to send the coin back to the auction house in the EU.

Many thanks again to Pekka K. and otlichnick for their timely comments and expertise!

I owe you one, guys! :)

Regard,
Mark Zema

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #186 on: June 24, 2020, 09:18:10 am »
Glad it worked out.  Having doubts about a $5 or even a $50 coin in your collection is ok - but you don't want to be stuck with doubts about a real treasure.

Someday both you and I will have genuine Nepotians......someday.

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #187 on: May 22, 2021, 02:02:53 am »
Hello Everyone!

It has been a while and it is good to be back!

I have added another coin to my collection!

Leo II with Zeno
AD 474. AV Solidus (20mm, 4.46 g, 6h). Constantinople mint.
OBV: Pearl-diademed, helmeted, and cuirassed bust facing slightly right, holding spear over shoulder and shield decorated with horseman motif
REV: Leo and Zeno seated facing on double throne, each holding mappa; star and cross above; CONOB.
RIC X 803; Depeyrot 98/1. A few minor marks. Good VF.

From CNG Coins Feature Auction 117, Lot 636, 05-19-21, Session 2

As always, your comments and ratings are appreciated!

Regards,
mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #188 on: June 26, 2021, 02:01:17 pm »
Cool, nice to see you back here  :)

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #189 on: June 28, 2021, 10:44:48 am »
Cool, nice to see you back here  :)

KC, Thank You! :-)

mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2022, 02:10:33 am »
Glad it worked out.  Having doubts about a $5 or even a $50 coin in your collection is ok - but you don't want to be stuck with doubts about a real treasure.

Someday both you and I will have genuine Nepotians......someday.

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Sean,

I just had to show this to you especially.

Remember the coin of Nepotian I won at auction almost two years ago and then returned as it had been excessively tooled? Well, it showed up again at auction a few months later at the same auction house, and then it just showed up again in mid-February at another auction house, slabbed. As you may recall, I paid approximately $1,600 for it in June 2020. Check out the hammer price this time.

mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2022, 06:27:50 am »
and worth every $ in my opinion, with smoothing and tooling by Leonardo da Vinci, just at the time of Salvatore de Mundo needed re-doing.
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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2022, 02:50:48 pm »
Isn't NGC supposed to mention things like tooling?
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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2022, 02:57:21 pm »
Never mind, I see where it says smoothing.
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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2022, 03:18:42 pm »
and worth every $ in my opinion, with smoothing and tooling by Leonardo da Vinci, just at the time of Salvatore de Mundo needed re-doing.

Heh heh. The really sad part of this transaction is that the major portion of the hammer price is for the plastic slab.

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #195 on: March 02, 2022, 01:04:09 pm »
Never mind, I see where it says smoothing.
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The question then becomes, was it smoothed to conceal the tooling? (Does anyone know if "tooling" is a word that NGC uses when describing a coin?)

To me, it looks exactly the same as when I had it in hand, but in this picture, who can tell what's really going on inside the slab?

mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #196 on: March 04, 2022, 10:00:21 am »
Sad!

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #197 on: April 15, 2022, 05:11:53 pm »
Hello All!

Please allow me to introduce you to my latest acquisition, a coin that I thought I would never own:

Jotapian. Usurper, circa AD 248-249
AR Antoninianus (23mm, 2.44 g, 1h).
Nicopolis in Seleucia mint.
Obv: IM C M F R IOTAPIANVS, radiate and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
Rev: VICTORI A A VG, Victory, draped, advancing left, holding wreath in right hand and cradling palm frond in left arm.
RIC IV 2c; Bland 15 (dies VIII/xii); RSC 2.
Toned, porous, rough surfaces, deposits, small flan bend. Good Fine. Very rare
CNG eAuction 513, Lot 443

As always, your comments are appreciated!

Regards,
mz

PS I found a website several years ago (coinproject.com, I believe) that stated that there were only 18 known coins of this usurper. Does anyone know if that number has changed? I cannot find this particular coin on any website other than coinarchives.com. TY mz

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #198 on: April 16, 2022, 12:03:27 am »
Congrats.  Tough coin to get

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Re: Mark Z2's Roman Imperial Portrait Gallery
« Reply #199 on: April 16, 2022, 09:44:54 am »
Wowza!  Congratulation, respect and envy!

Fantastic addition. 

I have not seen anything more about numbers.  I suspect it would be a bit higher but not much....

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