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Emanuele Giulianelli

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Greek? Provincial?
« on: October 03, 2007, 07:43:08 pm »
Very dark for me, but i think interesting coin

obv
head with curl hair and beard... looks like Commodus or M.Aurelius

rev man standing

16 mm

is it provincial? or greek?

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2007, 10:57:37 am »
any idea?
the head's style reminds me something phoenician, but maybe i'm on the wrong way

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2007, 11:21:44 pm »
the obv is  Jugate heads of Dioskouroi, the obv style is simmiler to the Akko (Ptolemias coinage) but it was used on other city coinage, I am not realy familiar with this rev???
I will make search on it.
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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 02:58:28 am »
Dear Salem,
ok i'll make some researches too, on the way you said to me. If you find something tell me.
Thank you very very much!

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 03:09:48 am »
can you have better photo for the rev???
it seems to be Cornucopia??? if so it is Akko mint.
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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 03:14:21 am »
it's a male figure standing

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 03:15:23 am »
I was just wondering about that.
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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 03:16:23 am »
some light more

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 03:19:50 am »
another picture

excuse me, why do you say Dioskouroi if the head in my picture is only one? And it has a curled beard!

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 03:24:05 am »
another obv picture

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 03:25:15 am »
what are thatr strange thinks in front of the obv's head?

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 03:32:04 am »
That's the reason Salem suggested the Dioskuri.
Here's an example that's actually very similar to your coin but I just post it
to show the Dioskuri not because I think it's a match.

'Griechen - Italien - Rhegion in Bruttium (heute: Reggio di Calabria)
260/215 v. Chr.
Tetras (Bronze)
Gewicht: 2,98 g
Durchmesser: 17 mm
Erhaltung: sehr schön, prachtvolle braune Patina
Vs: Dioskurenköpfe rechts
Rs: Hermes links stehend mit Petasus und Kerykeion, im Feld RHEGION und Wertzahl
SNG Cop -. Hill -. Attianese 1551. BMC -. Rutter, Historia Numorum 2558. Selten. '

Andreas
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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 03:35:09 am »
i'm not so sure there are two heads. The thing i'm sure is that the had has a beard

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 03:45:04 am »
Andreas got it I think
it is probably not a match but I believe it is from the same coinage type.
their are two heads for sure  ;D
and it is clear now their is a figure standing in your new photo, so it is not Akko, loo around what Andreas posted, you will find it their, even though it might be hard due to your poor coin.
best regards
Salem

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 03:46:33 am »
but the field to research is Ptolemaic?

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 03:48:19 am »
NAAAAH
I dont beleive at all that it is Ptolemic.
Search around Andreas information.

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2007, 03:50:06 am »

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2007, 04:01:26 am »
The rev is very similar...

Rhegion, Bruttium, Æ Quadrantes. Roman Times, 203-89 BC. Jugate heads of the Dioskoroi right, in laureate pilei / Asklepios standing left with branch, bird & scepter, IIII before.


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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2007, 04:08:26 am »
a little clue that shows we can be on the right way: i bought this coin in Italy

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2007, 08:10:38 am »
a new better picture

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2007, 08:12:30 am »
rev...
on the right up in the rev i seem to read an "P" of regio... is it?

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2007, 08:15:08 am »
a zoom of the right part of the rev<!--MESSAGE_SEPARATOR-->none? is my ID correct?

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2007, 05:39:18 am »
I think your coin is a perfect match of SNG ANS 778 you already found yourself.

Luigi

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Re: Greek? Provincial?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2007, 06:02:14 pm »
I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member (Woody Allen paraphrasing Groucho Marx)

 

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