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Byzantine lead seal
« on: June 15, 2021, 01:00:48 pm »

Obv. nimbate saint,
Rev. legend in 5 lines beginning +  :Greek_Theta_2: :Greek_epsilon: :Greek_Omicron: ... / :Greek_Rho: :Greek_Alpha:  :Greek_Beta: :Greek_Alpha::Greek_Iota: :Greek_Lambda: ...

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 07:07:30 am »
Interesting, is it yours?
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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2021, 07:11:10 am »

Shown on facebook, not mine.

Weight c. 21 gr.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2021, 09:45:18 am »
Hi Pekka

Very interesting seal indeed!

You are right reading  :Greek_Theta: :Greek_epsilon: :Greek_Omicron: :Greek_Delta: :Greek_omega_small: :Greek_Rho: :Greek_Alpha:
and then ΒΑCΙΛ(HCH). Then perhaps TH and then clearly ΠΟΡΦΥΡΟΓΕΝ(N)ΗΤH (or  :Greek_omega_small:)?. So, Theodora Porphyrogenneta. But there are some issues with the grammar. I will check this evening and come back.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2021, 02:08:11 pm »
Or perhaps
„ΘΕΟΔΩΡΑ ΒΑCΙΛΕΩC MTH (for MHTHP) ΠΟΡΦΥΡΟΓΕΝΗΤΩ»?
and thus the title porphyrogenetos goes to the Emperor and son Of this Theodora?
Could she perhaps be Theodora the daughter of Alexios A?

I am just thinking loudly. Pity we can‘t have better pics.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 11:02:39 am »
I think I can read remnants of the cyclical inscription "hagiosoritissa" on the obverse.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2021, 12:39:27 pm »

I asked for better pictures. So hope still remains.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2021, 01:06:20 am »
Hallo everybody,

''ΘΕΟΔω-ΡΑ ΒΑCΙΛ[...]-CΗ ΤΗ ΠΟ[Ρ]ΦVΡΟΓΕ[Ν?]-ΝΗΤω''

everything in dativ case.


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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2021, 03:13:05 am »
You are right. No issues with the grammar. Issues with my (forgotten) ancient Greek.

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Re: Byzantine lead seal
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2021, 02:29:37 pm »
Still there's an issue with grammar: the last letter must be eta, to produce the feminine dative ΠΟΡΦVΡΟΓΕΝΝΗΤH.
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