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Title: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: Pekka K on June 15, 2021, 01:00:48 pm

Obv. nimbate saint,
Rev. legend in 5 lines beginning +  :Greek_Theta_2: :Greek_epsilon: :Greek_Omicron: ... / :Greek_Rho: :Greek_Alpha:  :Greek_Beta: :Greek_Alpha: C  :Greek_Iota: :Greek_Lambda: ...

Pekka K

Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: Gert on June 16, 2021, 07:07:30 am
Interesting, is it yours?
Gert
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: Pekka K on June 16, 2021, 07:11:10 am

Shown on facebook, not mine.

Weight c. 21 gr.

Pekka K
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: iolkia on June 30, 2021, 09:45:18 am
Hi Pekka

Very interesting seal indeed!

You are right reading  :Greek_Theta: :Greek_epsilon: :Greek_Omicron: :Greek_Delta: :Greek_omega_small: :Greek_Rho: :Greek_Alpha:
and then ΒΑCΙΛ(HCH). Then perhaps TH and then clearly ΠΟΡΦΥΡΟΓΕΝ(N)ΗΤH (or  :Greek_omega_small:)?. So, Theodora Porphyrogenneta. But there are some issues with the grammar. I will check this evening and come back.

Best wishes
Iolkia
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: iolkia on June 30, 2021, 02:08:11 pm
Or perhaps
„ΘΕΟΔΩΡΑ ΒΑCΙΛΕΩC MTH (for MHTHP) ΠΟΡΦΥΡΟΓΕΝΗΤΩ»?
and thus the title porphyrogenetos goes to the Emperor and son Of this Theodora?
Could she perhaps be Theodora the daughter of Alexios A?

I am just thinking loudly. Pity we can‘t have better pics.
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: iolkia on July 01, 2021, 11:02:39 am
I think I can read remnants of the cyclical inscription "hagiosoritissa" on the obverse.

Regards,
Iolkia

Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: Pekka K on July 01, 2021, 12:39:27 pm

I asked for better pictures. So hope still remains.

Pekka K
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: Perikles on July 02, 2021, 01:06:20 am
Hallo everybody,

''ΘΕΟΔω-ΡΑ ΒΑCΙΛ[...]-CΗ ΤΗ ΠΟ[Ρ]ΦVΡΟΓΕ[Ν?]-ΝΗΤω''

everything in dativ case.


Perikles
Title: Re: Byzantine lead seal
Post by: iolkia on July 02, 2021, 03:13:05 am
You are right. No issues with the grammar. Issues with my (forgotten) ancient Greek.

Regards,
Iolkia