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Title: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 08, 2015, 01:58:14 pm
 Ladislaus V crowned L-h mint mark. Huszar 643,Unger 494k.

 John Hunyadi n-* mint mark. Huszar 618,Unger 485i.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 08, 2015, 02:38:25 pm
Hi Edward D,
 You are right .. +++
Both of them scarce.. +++

 and the reference also are correct.. +++ ;)

 Congratulation

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2015, 08:25:50 pm
 Thank you,Quadrans.  I have another interesting one coming. It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 18, 2015, 01:50:39 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  I have another interesting one coming. It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it.

 We are waiting :)

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 18, 2015, 05:54:18 pm
It is a 1541 with the incorrect date of 1451 on it. 

There is a famous error of a 1510 that reads 1501.

Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 27, 2015, 04:38:26 pm
 Here is the 1451 K-B Hungarian Denar that should be 1541 K-B,King Ferdinand I.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 27, 2015, 09:46:23 pm
A very nice find.  Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 27, 2015, 10:12:18 pm
Here is the 1451 K-B Hungarian Denar that should be 1541 K-B,King Ferdinand I.

 I agree, very interesting coin,

 Engraving error, in the legens..

 Congratulation..
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2015, 11:22:12 am
 Here are 2 more. A very worn 1524 L-3 Hungarian Denar,King Louis II,I have Huszar 853,Unger 677c,the 1 in date off the flan.

 Also,a 1529 B-H Hungarian Denar,King Ferdinand I,Huszar 937,Unger 744g.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2015, 11:25:14 am
 Another one is a 1358-71 Hungarian Denar,Lily-Saracen head mint mark,King Louis I,Huszar 542,Unger 429x. It looks like a Ladislaus V-style variant.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 31, 2015, 02:47:06 pm
 A worn 1525 C-S/L-R Hungarian Denar,King Louis II.  Huszar 846,Unger 675p.

 Probably not that scarce;a 1338 mace-mace Hungarian Denar,King Charles Robert. Huszar 495,Unger 393n.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2015, 12:40:19 pm
 First one is a 1442 P-R Hungarian Denar,King Wladislaus I,Huszar 605,Unger 470l.

 Second one 1456/57 B-P Hungarian Denar,King Ladislaus V,Huszar 668,Unger 525b.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2015, 12:50:15 pm
 These probably aren't that scarce,but they are my first bracteates. The first one is Unger 122 and the second is Unger 117 and both Huszar 191.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 21, 2015, 08:54:25 am
 Here are 2 more. Both are 1446 Hungarian Denars,John Hunyadi. The first is an h-P mint mark Huszar 618,Unger 485d. The second an n-C mint mark Huszar 618,Unger 485g.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 21, 2015, 09:32:25 am
Nice specimens.. +++ :) ;)

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 04, 2015, 11:32:46 am
 1602 K-B (should be 1620) Hungarian Denar,King Matthias II.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 04, 2015, 11:59:24 am
Hi,

 It is interesting legends error :)

 insted of 1620 your coin "1602"  of course this time not the Mathias II. time 

 nice pick up

 Congratulation..

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 04, 2015, 01:43:25 pm
 Thank you.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 02, 2016, 10:05:54 am
Here are 2 more. The first is a 1527 C-Lily Hungarian Denar,King Ferdinand I,Huszar 942,Unger 743i.

The second is 1447-50 n-* Hungarian Denar,Gov. John Hunyadi,Huszar 620,Unger 486i,Rethy II157A,Pohl 177-10.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 02, 2016, 02:02:07 pm
Nice set of coins .. :) +++

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 16, 2016, 07:43:46 pm
The first one is a 1441 L-P. Hungarian Denar,Ladislaus V,Huszar 643,Unger 494l variant,Rethy 201A,Pohl 150-10(I believe).

The second a 1463 n-E Hungarian Denar,Matthias Corvinus,Huszar 706,Unger 556h,Rethy II228,Pohl 206-8.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 30, 2016, 09:35:49 am
Here are 2 more;the first is a 1531 K-B Hungarian Denar variant under King Ferdinand I. It has a straight sided shield with a rosette above and on each side of the shield. I haven't been able to find this one in any of my references.  The other is a very worn (almost slick) 1469 B-cross/horseshoe Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562e,Rethy II235A,Pohl 216-5. It has an error in the legend PAGRON instead of PATRON.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 20, 2016, 02:37:40 pm
The first one is a 1438(per Pohl) with a K-cross/R mint mark under King Albert;Huszar 591,Unger 459c,Pohl 126-4,Rethy 134.

The second is a 1468 h-T under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 704,Unger 555a,Pohl 204-1,Rethy 222. It is rather worn.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 21, 2016, 07:53:59 am
Here are 2 more,probably not that scarce but to show the difference between silver and copper. The first is a 1524 and the second a 1525,both with L-B mint marks under King Louis II. I believe both of these are Huszar 846,Rethy 308A,Pohl 258-1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 29, 2016, 04:17:32 am
Interesting comparison.. +++ :)

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: BIRDSOFPREY on May 07, 2016, 09:08:49 pm
Does anyone have a good reference for the paired letters that appear on either side of the patriarchal cross or shield on these Hungarian denars?  I have quite a few and would like to know their significance.  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

David
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 19, 2016, 07:45:58 am
Here is a worn 1442 n-star Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I. Huszar 605,Unger 470k,Pohl 141-10.

Also,a 1438 C-K under King Albert. Huszar 592,Unger 461c,Pohl 126-1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 19, 2016, 07:53:11 am
Here are 2 of the scarcer mint marks of Queen Maria. Both are 1386-95 with h and lily mint marks,respectively.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 22, 2016, 12:06:56 am
Nice  addition...

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 16, 2016, 11:41:46 am
Here is one I couldn't resist;a 1063-74 Hungarian Denar under King Salomon,Huszar 14,Unger 8,Rethy I19.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 16, 2016, 10:37:46 pm
Great coin Edward..
 Congratulation. +++

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 23, 2016, 10:30:21 am
Here are 2 varieties of 1526 L-V Hungarian Denar under King Louis II. The second one has more folds in Madonna's robe under the knee and there is a slight difference in the eagle in the crest. Huszar 841,Unger 673( ).
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 23, 2016, 10:36:37 am
The first one is a 1524 L-S Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger645t.

The second is the billon version of a 1444-46 A-crescent/n Hungarian Denar during the Interregnum;Huszar 613,Unger 480 type.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 23, 2016, 01:45:58 pm
Nice examples congratulation.. +++

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 11, 2016, 08:34:26 am
Here are 2 1528 C-Lily Hungarian denars under King Ferdinand I. The first one is billon with a curved shield;I believe it is Huszar 943 and Unger 744d var. The second is silver with 3 pellets around the shield and is another variant of Unger 744d. I tried with less light on the billon.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 11, 2016, 08:41:53 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus;the first a 1482-90 n-crossed hammers Huszar 720,Unger 566i.. The second a 1468 B-S Huszar 717,Unger 562d. On the n-hammers,I tried with less light. I was called in to work before I posted the new pictures. The cross in the shield looks like it was double struck. I will try to take a better picture.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 11, 2016, 11:18:35 am
Here are 2 1528 C-Lily Hungarian denars under King Ferdinand I. The first one is billon with a curved shield;I believe it is Huszar 943 and Unger 744d var. The second is silver with 3 pellets around the shield and is another variant of Unger 744d.

Hi Edward,

 The first look like an imitation but the picture are not enough sharp,

 the second are  very nice..

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 11, 2016, 11:25:36 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus;the first a 1482-90 n-crossed hammers Huszar 720,Unger 566i.. The second a 1468 B-S Huszar 717,Unger 562d.

Hi both are Mathias Corvinus

nice examples ...

but we need a better picture :)

 Regards
 Q.

p.s.
your first coin to compare mine examples :

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-126406
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5329&pos=67

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 12, 2016, 10:59:23 am
I thought I would post a little better pictures of the 1482-90 n-Crossed hammers since I had so many pictures. The shield side seems to be struck much weaker than the other side and double struck. From one side to the other is as different as night and day.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 13, 2016, 08:06:46 am
HI Edward,

 Yes the revers side looking like a double struck ...

Which kind of equipment you use to make a photo mobile phone ? or ?.

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 13, 2016, 09:37:19 am
I use a mobile phone;a Sprint Evo 4G.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 13, 2016, 10:32:04 am
This one have an 8 MP camera ,

 it is enough to do better picture, but you must made stable of your mobile and use more light little bit side way..

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 02:43:21 pm
Here are 2 Hungarian Denars under King Ladislaus V. The first is 1447-50 K-cross/P (billon) Huszar 654,Unger 505b,Pohl 160-1,Rethy II183 and the other a 1440 C-G Huszar 643,Unger 494a,Pohl 150-1,Rethy II201A.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 02:48:44 pm
The first is a 1330-32 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert Huszar 474,Unger 375,Pohl 29,Rethy 11. The other a 1525 L-K under King Louis II,Huszar 846,Unger 675e,Pohl 258-2,Rethy II308A.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 02:54:53 pm
Here are 2 types of Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus with a K-P/radial rosette mint mark. The first 1482-86,Huszar
719,Unger 565c,Pohl 221-2,Rethy II239A. the other 1489,Huszar 722,Unger 567c,Pohl 223-2,Rethy II232.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 09, 2016, 05:00:44 pm
Nice grup of coins Edward... +++

 My favourit are the King Charles Robert and King Mathias Corvinus coins.... ;) :) +++

 This is Mine Charles Robert but the smaller obolos:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-107127


Best regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 09, 2016, 06:43:11 pm
Yours looks nicer. I think mine is more of an uneven strike than wear.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 06:37:13 am
The first is a 1530 A-B Hungarian Denar under John Zapolya. The N's are reversed in the legend and the H is missing from IOHANNES. Huszar 881,Unger 699z,Pohl 265-2,Rethy 331A. The second is a 1447-51 K-R under John Hunyadi;it is slightly bent and very dark. Huszar 620,Unger 486h,Pohl 177-8,Rethy 157A.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 06:42:57 am
Both of these are 1458-60 Hungarian Denars under Matthias Corvinus. The first has a K-B mint mark;Huszar 699,Unger 553g,Pohl 199-6,Rethy 217. The second has an n-E mint mark;Huszar 699,Unger 553h,Pohl 199-7,Rethy 217.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 24, 2016, 08:11:03 am
All of your coin are nice .. :)
Congratulation.. +++

The last one the shield side are overstriked the the cross.. :) it is interesting.. +++

Regards
Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 24, 2016, 09:22:35 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  :) :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 24, 2016, 09:25:05 am
Slowly you can start your own gallery in this forum.. :) ;) +++ ;D

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2016, 06:09:30 pm
Here are two 1095-1116 Hungarian Denars under King Koloman;Huszar 33,Unger 27. The first one has a crescent sigla next to the L in CALMAN in the legend. The second one has a line sigla between the crosses in the 3:00 and 6:00 position in the center.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 04, 2016, 06:11:48 pm
Nice coins.. +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2016, 11:19:37 am
The first is a 1524 L-W Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675w,Pohl 258-16,Rethy II308A.

The second is a 1440 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under King Albert;Huszar 592,Unger 461q,Pohl 127A-9,Rethy II135B.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2016, 11:26:10 am
The first one is a 1394-96 I-S Hungarian Denar under Sigismund;Huszar 576,Unger 449.alpha,Pohl 117-14,Rethy II121.

The second is a 1063-74 Hungarian Denar under King Salomon;Huszar 17,Unger 10,Rethy I22.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 01, 2016, 07:28:46 pm
Nice coins Edward,

My favourit are the Salomon :)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 09:31:29 am
The first one is a 1526 B-A/A Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673,Pohl 255-12c,Rethy II306A.
The second is a 1485-90 S-W Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 724,Unger 569b,Pohl 225,Rethy II238.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 09:37:35 am
The first is a 1468-70 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562f,Pohl 216-6,Rethy II235A.
The second is a 1440/41 W-D Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469.alpha,Pohl 135-23,Rethy 149A.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 22, 2016, 01:51:15 pm
Nice group , Edward..:)   +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 22, 2016, 02:21:52 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. The 1526 B-A/A is a companion to another that was double struck.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 16, 2016, 08:53:19 am
The first one is a 1469 B-cross/horseshoe Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562e,Pohl 216-5,Rethy II235A.  The second is a 1468 n-cross/horseshoe also under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562n,Pohl 216-14,Rethy II235A.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 16, 2016, 04:30:36 pm
Great coins.. ;) :) +++

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 20, 2017, 08:41:59 am
The first is a 1359-64 Lily/f/B Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 542,Unger 429q,Pohl 79-4a,Rethy II94a. The second is a 1487-90 K-Cl (like a cents symbol and there is a point over it). Pohl has it as 1487 and Unger at 1490. Huszar 722,Unger 567d,Pohl 223-4.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 20, 2017, 03:41:38 pm
Nice coins Edward.. ;) :) +++

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 21, 2017, 03:45:38 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 25, 2017, 02:08:56 pm
The first is a 1339-42 rosette mint mark Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 497,Unger 394m,Pohl 54-2. The second is a 1440/41 G-B under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469f,Pohl 135-6.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 25, 2017, 02:22:52 pm
The first is a 1442/43 P-I Hungarian Denar (copper) under King Wladsilaus I;Huszar 603,Unger 471.gamma.Pohl 143-10.  The second is a 1445/46 A-A* Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480b,Pohl 173-1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 25, 2017, 02:55:20 pm
Nice coins Edward ,

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 26, 2017, 07:46:56 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I should have a few more scarce ones in 2 or 3 weeks. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 26, 2017, 09:34:30 am
It's OK we are waiting for... ;) :) +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2017, 06:55:38 am
The first is a 1525 L-W Hungarian Denar;Huszar 846,Unger 675w,Pohl 258-17. The second is a 1524 R-Lily / L-W ;Huszar 849,Unger 675v,Pohl 258-35. Both are under King Louis II.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2017, 07:01:42 am
The first is a 1467 B-star/S Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 561b,Pohl 214-2, The second is a 1442-44 copper Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609,Unger 471w,Pohl 143-22 with an R-I mint mark.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 19, 2017, 04:22:35 pm
Hi Edward, both group are interesting.. :) ;) +++

 Regards
 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 20, 2017, 08:50:24 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Dee on June 08, 2017, 10:51:43 am
Hello, Edward :) I'm new around here, so I couldn't comment your coins before.
As an archaeologist doing a research and a catalogue of late-medieval silver coins (mostly Hungarian and Austrian), I must say you have some really interesting pieces here. I especially like the "typos" on some of the coins... I myself encountered misspellings such as PAARONA, VNGONA, UZGAR, PANGARIE, mostly double-struck, but some of them were contemporary immitations.
Nice collection :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Dee on June 09, 2017, 06:18:13 am
The second is a 1485-90 S-W Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 724,Unger 569b,Pohl 225,Rethy II238.

Hello again :) I was looking at your nice photos again today, and I noticed for this particular example that it should say Matthias (1458 - 1490), not Wladislaus II (1490 - 1516). According to Pohl 1982, this type was being produced from 1487 to 1490 in Vienna. According to Unger 1974, the production took place between 1485 and 1490. It's interesting how two different types at Unger are one and the same at Pohl, and vice versa...they had very different criteria. I'm sure you know all this, this just caught my eye. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 02, 2017, 08:18:56 pm
The first is a 1444 h-PR Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609,Unger 475k,Pohl 147-8.

The second is a 1438 K-L under King Albert;Huszar 591,Unger 459b,Pohl 126-2.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 03, 2017, 07:22:35 am
Hi Edward D,

 Nice coin again and the very nice photo.. :)  +++

 Regards

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 03, 2017, 03:46:32 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! I have a few more when I get time to photograph them.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 24, 2017, 10:27:34 pm
Both of these are 1440 D-n Hungarian Denars underKing Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469e,Pohl 135-5. The first is standard and the second has the eagle and Lithuanian rider reversed.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 24, 2017, 10:35:26 pm
The first is a 1524 L-K Hungarian Denar variant I could not find in the catalog under King Louis II with the 2 in the date reversed;Huszar 846,Unger 675e.

The second is a 1443 W-O made of copper under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 607,Unger 472Z,Pohl 145-25.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 25, 2017, 10:56:11 am
The first is a 1528 C-Lily Hungarian Denar with reverse N's in the legend under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 943,Unger 744d.

The second is a 1528 K-B straight crest variation. It looks like an Unger 744a type,but I can't find this year in the catalog.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 25, 2017, 11:02:25 am
The first is a 1442 B-star/n Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 605,Unger 470e,Pohl 141-5.

The second is a 1440/41 W-h Hungarian Denar (copper) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 602,Unger 477g,Pohl 140-6.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 26, 2017, 12:46:35 pm
Great coins Edwards   +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 26, 2017, 04:02:04 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on August 20, 2017, 12:36:36 pm
Belatedly checking in.  Nice coins.  It is always a pleasure to see medieval Hungarian coins posted to this (or any English language based) site.  Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 20, 2017, 02:00:48 pm
Thank you,Stkp. Your gallery and Quadran's gallery have helped me identify several coins in the past. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 09:51:22 am
The first is a 1532 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand with a Zapolya style Madonna and rosettes instead of points in the legend.

The second is a 1440/41 W-O Billon under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 602,Unger 477c,Pohl 140-7.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 10:01:37 am
The first is a 1434 n-S Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 578,Unger 450i,Pohl 118-15.

The second is a 1442 K-R copper variant with points over the K and R in the mint mark;Huszar 643,Unger 494h,Pohl 150-13.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 04, 2017, 10:07:14 am
This one is a 1373-82 mace-mace Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with the maces prallel to each other;Huszar 547,Unger 432j,Pohl 89-11.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 04, 2017, 12:29:47 pm
Hi Edward,

Nice group of coins :)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 10:09:31 am
The first one is a variation of a 1529 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with 3 points around the crest. I am still looking for a reference to this variation.

The second is a 1524 Lily-Lily/L-C under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675c,Pohl 258-3.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 10:17:30 am
Both of these are 1461 Hungarian Denars under Matthias Corvinus.

The first one has a C-I mint mark;Huszar 702,Unger 554c,Pohl 202-2 and is double struck.

The second has an h-S mint mark with a point over the S;Huszar 702,Unger 554g,Pohl 202-5.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 19, 2017, 10:31:41 am
The first is a 1445/46 A-crescent/n Hungarian Denar ,Interregnum II with a legend variation REGnIE UnGare instead of REGnI UnGARIE. Huszar 613,Unger 480,Pohl 173.

The second is a 1390-1405 n/n under Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449.gamma,Pohl 117-17. It is the size of a parvus and the last picture shows the size compared to a denar from this time period.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 11:12:13 am
The first is a 1552 H-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with a legend variation FERDINAN.D.RO.VNG;Huszar 948,Unger 745k.

The second is a 1527 N-T under King John Zapolya variation with a point over the shield;Huszar 881,Unger 699o,Pohl 265-18.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 11:24:23 am
The first is a 1526 N-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673.alpha,Pohl 255-28.

The second is a 1440 K-R under King Ladislaus V;Huszar 643,Unger 494e,Pohl 150-5.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2017, 11:45:21 am
Both of these are Hungarian Denars under King Wladislaus I made of copper or very low grade billon.

The first is a 1444 G-W with legend variations. On the obverse mOnETA WLADISLA E instead of mOnETE WLADISLAI DEI and on the reverse UGARIE (missing N);Huszar 609,Unger 475v,Pohl 147-6.

The second is a 1442/43 with an incuse image of the reverse on the obverse. I was wondering if this was a variation but Joe Sermarini pointed out that it is a brockage error.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 11, 2017, 03:07:08 pm
Nice coins, Edward. I'm always happy to see posts about medieval Hungarian coins on here. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 23, 2017, 03:02:33 pm
Hi Edward,

I was left a few weeks, but you have some nice coin here congratulation... +++

Regards

Q.

p.s.

We will printed soon a new book from a Medieval Hungarian coins.. :)

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=113482.msg690337#new

regards

 Q.








Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 25, 2017, 10:35:10 am
The first is a 1444 G-W with legend variations. On the obverse mOnETA WLADISLA E instead of mOnETE WLADISLAI DEI and on the reverse UGARIE (missing N);Huszar 609,Unger 475v,Pohl 147-6..

Edward, it is great that you have access to Pohl, which is not an easy book to obtain. The coin was minted in Cuvin, now Kovin in the province of Vojvodina in Serbia.

Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 10:27:10 am
The first is a 1524 Lily-Lily?L-C Hungarian Denar under King Louis II. This one has a normal 2 in the date;the other one previously posted has a reverse 2. Huszar 846,Unger 675c,Pohl 258-3.

The second is a 1479-90 (1482-90 Unger and 1479-85 Pohl) with an n-C mint mark under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 720,Unger 566g,Pohl 222-6.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 10:38:20 am
The first is a 1445/46 B-star/n Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II variant with the reverse legend on both sides;Huszar 613 var.,Unger 480c var.,Pohl 173-3 var.

The second is a 1358-71 with a saracen head mint mark under King Louis I. It is a variant with 2 points between his legs;Huszar 542 var.,Unger 429x Var.,Pohl 79-9d var.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 21, 2017, 10:41:39 am
Nice examples.. ;) +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 21, 2017, 11:50:23 am
Very nice coins, Edward.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 21, 2017, 08:04:03 pm
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: peterpil19 on December 22, 2017, 04:46:04 pm
Interesting coins Edward,

Thank you for sharing,

Peter
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 02, 2018, 10:11:06 am
The first one is slightly past what is cosidered medieval,but it is a 1614 N-B Hungarian Denar under King Matthias II;Huszar 1142,Unger 871. Some of the copper leeched on to the surface but gives it a nice color.

The second is a 1526 C-Lily with a Gothic C in the mint mark under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673i,Pohl 255-24.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 02, 2018, 10:20:04 am
The first is a 1500-05 n/A (1500-02 Huszar,1505 Pohl) Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 807,Unger 641c,Pohl 242-3. The Madonna side is double struck.

The second is a 1489 K-P/Rosette variant without glory under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722var,Unger 567var,Pohl 223var. The lines on Madonna's face and neck are from the Arpadian stripes in the shield from the other side.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on January 02, 2018, 07:28:36 pm
Hi Edward,

Happy New Year... :)

Nice coin all,
My favourit the first two:
Mathias II. N-B, Nice Madonna.... :)
and  C-Lily Lodovicus II. are also great... +++

Regards

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on January 02, 2018, 10:01:09 pm
The second is a 1489 K-P/Rosette variant without glory under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722var,Unger 567var,Pohl 223var. The lines on Madonna's face and neck are from the Arpadian stripes in the shield from the other side.

They are both nice additions, Edward, although I find the Huszar 722 var. to be especially interesting. I have one bearing that mintmark in which the Madonna is not nimbate but the infant Jesus is nimbate.   https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-46180. Your coin is another variety which, as far as I know, is not recorded. It seems that only those with this mintmark omit this feature.

Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 03, 2018, 11:45:34 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++

@ Stkp,I saw the one you are talking about in your gallery and I wasn't able to find the variation  I have published. That's why I had to broad brush the attribution with a note of variation.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 05:45:49 pm
The first is a 1624 P-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1207,Unger 918b.

The second is a 1554 N-C under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 953 var.,Unger 745l var. It is a variant with 3 rosettes under the Madonna.

The third is an unpublished variant of a 1530 A-B under King John Zapolya with a curved crest;Huszar 881 var.,Unger 699z var.,Pohl 265-2 var.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 01, 2018, 05:56:00 pm
Great examples, Edward, congratulations


 +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 05:57:48 pm
The first is a 1490 K-Q (Cl) Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 722,Unger 567d,Pohl 223-4. It isn't that scarce,but I had room for it.

The second is a contemporary counterfeit Hungarian Denar from the time of Queen Maria (1382-95);Huszar 569,Unger 443 type,Pohl 114. The legend is totally unmeaning.

The third is a 1373-82 with a Lily-S mint mark under King Louis I;Huszar 547,Unger 432d,Pohl 89-9.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 01, 2018, 05:59:39 pm
Hoops , another three nice specimen  +++ :) ;)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2018, 06:02:20 pm
Thank you, Quadrans.  +++  I posted the second group after you replied.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 02, 2018, 08:59:45 am
All are very nice. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 02, 2018, 07:26:06 pm
Thank you,Stkp. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2018, 06:21:30 pm
The first one isn't medieval,but the lowest mintage of King Leopold's reign;a 1666 K-B Hungarian Denar,Huszar 1506 and Unger 1110.

The second is a 1470 n-hammer under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. It is a variant with a circle in the legend instead of the point.

The third one is quite common,but I have room for it;a 1390-1427 Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxebmburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449a,Pohl 117-1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2018, 06:34:26 pm
These are variants of the Saracen head denars. They are all 1373-82 Hungarian Denars under King Louis I.

The first has a P_ (P with a stem to the right from the base). As far as I know,this one isn't recorded in the catalogues;Huszar 547var.,Unger 432c var.,Pohl 89-8 var.

The second and third are variations of the legend;I couldn't find either of these in the catalogues. They are both variants of Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1. The second has the obverse legend on both sides and the third has the rverse legend on both sides.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 12, 2018, 01:40:32 am
Hi, Edwards,

Nice coins :),

About King Luis, the P mintmark look legate PL, :)
and the last two coins are interesting, but this type has several legends combination, which is not described the earlier catalogues.
Some same combination also exists the Maria coins too... :) +++ ;)

Regards

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 12, 2018, 07:27:59 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  +++   I also have a variation where the obverse and reverse legends are swapped.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 13, 2018, 11:10:54 pm
The second and third are variations of the legend;I couldn't find either of these in the catalogues. They are both variants of Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1. The second has the obverse legend on both sides and the third has the rverse legend on both sides.

Nice coins. The one with the reverse on both sides is listed as Huszar 547a.
Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 14, 2018, 03:26:17 pm
Thank you.Stkp! +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 03, 2018, 11:55:50 am
The first is a 1524 L-3 Hungarian Denar under King Louis II variation with points surrounding the digits in the date;Huszar 853,Unger 677c,Pohl 258-10.

The second is a1479-90 with an n-2 snakes mint mark under Matthias Corvinus with the first M (MONETA) missing in the legend;Huszar 720,Unger 566j,Pohl 232-10.

The third is a 1479-86 K-P with a backward K in the mint mark;Huszar 719 var.,Unger 565b var.,Pohl 221-1 var.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 04, 2018, 03:00:58 pm
Great coins,  :) +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 05, 2018, 03:28:09 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on May 10, 2018, 11:52:29 pm
Very interesting coins. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 12, 2018, 03:37:19 pm
Thank you,Stkp. It is amazing how many different varieties and legend variations there are.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 07, 2018, 10:54:22 am
New additions.
1. 1531 eagle wings Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 961,Unger 744o. The eagle wings are a little more visible in hand than the picture. Reverse n's in the legend and an x over the crest are traits of the eagle wing denar. Another thing that interferes with the eagle wings is the obverse is double struck and the eagle wings are opposite in the same place as the date.

2. 1471-81 K-PV under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar;Huszar 718,Unger 564e,Pohl 219-5.

3.1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. This variety is the Madonna without stole.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 07, 2018, 05:41:21 pm
Interesting coins...

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 07, 2018, 06:03:46 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 12, 2018, 06:53:47 pm
1. 1554 N-C Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I variation with points under the Madonna and points and stars in the legend instead of rosettes;Huszar 953,Unger 745l.

2. 1455 B-L/star under King Ladislaus V. I don't see this mint mark in the catalogues,but I do see one with + over the L Huszar 664var,Unger 523var,Pohl 187-2var.

3.1384/85 G-M under Queen Maria with "REGINE UNGARIE" legend variation;Huszar 569var,Unger 443dvar,Pohl 114-4var.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 13, 2018, 12:34:27 am
Both are great, Edward,  ;) +++

My favorite the Maria denar, :)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 13, 2018, 01:03:59 am
Thank you.Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 14, 2018, 04:46:22 pm
Both are great, Edward,  ;) +++
My favorite the Maria denar, :)
Q.

Agreed. For more information on this particular variation of the Maria, bearing the same mark, please refer to my example:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-51280

Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 11:21:23 am
The first is a 1447-52 B-I Hungarian Denar under John Hunyadi with a legend variation TEMPORE.GUBERNATORIS instead of TEMPORE.IO.GUBERNATOR which isn't in the catalogues;Huszar 623var,Unger 486avar,Pohl 177-1var.

The second is a 1440/41 L-P. Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus V. It is a variation with a point after the P in the mint mark not in the catalogues;Huszar 643var,Unger 494lvar,Pohl 150-10var. I have another one of these but this has slightly better details.

The third is a 1390-1427 S under Sigismund of Luxemburg. It is a variation with the mint mark on the left side of the cross;Huszar 576,Unger 449.mu.Pohl 117-8.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on August 19, 2018, 07:51:08 pm
All very nice finds. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 08:19:09 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 19, 2018, 08:35:29 pm
Hi Edward, nice examples,

about the János Hunyadi denar, both of the legends exist, but depends on which privy mark and which date...
because of the position of him...


Regards

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2018, 09:59:49 pm
Thank you Quadrans. I have the other legend variation also on the B-I mint mark. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 12, 2018, 11:17:52 am
The first one is a 1383(Huszar and Unger)/1383-85(Pohl) Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria with a lily-lily mint mark;Huszar 566,Unger 442f,Pohl 112-2.

The second is a 1077-95 Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus I;Huszar 27,Unger 22,CAC/Opitz Vol.1/10.8.b2.1/14. It has a sigla consisting of 2 wedges between the A and U in LADISLAUS.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on September 16, 2018, 01:33:06 pm
Nice coins. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 16, 2018, 02:10:56 pm
Thank you,Stkp. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 24, 2018, 02:10:20 pm
Great coins Edward,
Congratulation  +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 24, 2018, 02:47:00 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 07, 2018, 12:34:04 pm
The first one isn't medieval,but a 1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen;Huszar Transylvania 455,Unger 272a,KM#120.

The second is a 1546 K-B under King Ferdinand I with a 5 pointed star after the date and 3 under the Madonna;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

The fourth is most likely a contemporary counterfeit that shows a "date" of 555 (or  reverse 222) and an L-K mint mark that was used during King Louis II's reign.


The third is a 1520 K-G under King Louis II with VNGAR legend variation on obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1. It has a blue patina in obverse legend and a pale red in the center.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 07, 2018, 12:53:46 pm
The first is a 1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus with points in the legend (I already have the variation with circles in the legend);Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.

The second a 1445/46 B-star/nInterregnum II billon with MOnETA.UnGARIE.REGNI instead of MOnETA.REGNI.UNGARIE;Huszar 613,Unger 480c,Pohl 173-3.

The third a 1373-82 under King Louis I Saracen head with no points around the double cross;Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on October 07, 2018, 11:06:35 pm
All nice. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 13, 2018, 01:01:06 pm
Great coins Edward,

 +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 13, 2018, 03:59:48 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2018, 02:09:37 pm
The first is a 1444 A-B Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609a,Unger 475b,Pohl 148-7.

The second is a 1046-60 under King Andreas I;Huszar 9,Unger 5,CAC1/Opitz 4.4.09.1/81. It has a sigla of 2 points in each quadrant of the inner circle and another under REX in the legend.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 01, 2018, 02:16:24 pm
Great coins ... ;) +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 01, 2018, 03:34:21 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 05, 2018, 12:31:34 am
Nice coins. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 05, 2018, 08:25:18 am
Thank you,Stkp.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 02, 2018, 10:07:46 am
This one is a 1373-82 Saracen head Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with a crown-crown mint mark;Huszar 547,Unger 432e,Pohl 89-2.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 02, 2018, 12:59:02 pm
Great piece,  +++

Congratulation

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 03, 2018, 09:46:35 am
Nice. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 03, 2018, 10:08:19 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: reebeezlee on December 27, 2018, 07:54:08 am
Very nice pieces and interesting mint marks! It will take some time to go through them but it's worth the effort :)



-reebeezlee
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 27, 2018, 01:37:19 pm
Thank you reebeezlee. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 17, 2019, 09:25:42 am
Here is a 1358-71 Hungarian Denar under King Louis I with a G mint mark;Huszar 542,Unger 429e,Pohl 79-14.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 17, 2019, 10:30:16 am
Nice piece... +++ ;)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on February 17, 2019, 10:48:19 am
Yes, it certainly is a nice piece, and very well centered on the reverse. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 17, 2019, 11:47:54 am
Thank you,Quadrans and Stkp. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 16, 2019, 03:40:29 pm
The first two are anonymous Hungarian Denars attributed to King Stephen III (1162-72?)

1. Sigla small wedge at 2:00 and a small wedge in "O",Huszar 127,Unger 84,Rethy I-137,CAC vol.2/19.15.1.1/b2.3/29.
2. Sigla at the top of the cross at 12:00,Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC vol.2/19.5.1.1/a1.1/2.
 
3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar attributed to King Geza II (1141-62?),Variation oh Huszar 139,Unger 65,CAC vol.2/20.2.2.1/a1.9/10. Sigla one point on the horizontal cross bar just to the left of the vertical cross bar.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar attributed to King Stephen II (1116-31?),Huszar 76,Unger 42,Rethy I-65,CAC vol.2/18.1.1.1/b1.2/43. Sigla small wedge at about 1:00 to the right of the larger wedga and above/left of small cross.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 17, 2019, 03:27:52 am
Dear, Edwards, I hope, you like the Book :)

All, nice coins, and you find correctly the sigla variation,  ;)

I have a note only the second coin, the cross of the top has a pellet on the top part,
normally is not there, it means that is a sigla!

CAC vol.2/19.5.1.1/a1.1/2.   +++

Regards

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 17, 2019, 08:00:15 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I was thinking that looked different from the bottom cross. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 17, 2019, 08:44:31 am
It is OK,  +++

 Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on March 17, 2019, 10:49:15 am
Nice additions, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 17, 2019, 12:27:53 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2019, 09:48:02 am
1. 1526 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an open C in the mint mark;Huszar 841,Unger 673 I,Pohl 255-24.

2. 1445/46 K-R billon Hungarian Denar,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480f,Pohl 173-6.


3. 1358-71 star/saracen head Hungarian Denar under King Louis I. It is a variation of Huszar 542,Unger 429,but only listed in Pohl as 79-9a.



Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2019, 10:13:55 am
All of these are anonymous Hungarian Denars.

1. Stephen III (1162-72?). It has a sigla of one point in center of cross at 3:00;Huszar 171,Unger 85,Rethy I-157,CAC Vol. II/20.18.1.1/a1.14/15.

2. King Geza II (1141-62?). It has a sigla of one point over the cross in the center;Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/a1.16/17.

3. King Geza II (1141-62?). It has a sigla of one point at about 2:00;Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a1.7/8.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 08, 2019, 01:17:11 am
Wow, Edward, all 6 coins are great,  ;)

Congratulation,  +++

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 08, 2019, 10:28:19 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 14, 2019, 06:57:18 pm
Six very nice coins. Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 14, 2019, 07:19:24 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 10:02:11 am
1. 1525 ND-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II (slightly bent);Huszar 841,Unger 673w,Pohl 255-29.

2. 1358-71 fB Hungarian Denar under King Louis I,Huszar 542,Unger 429q,Pohl 79-4.

3. 1336/37 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert,Huszar 491,Unger 391,Pohl 48.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62 King Geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC vol. II/19.9.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-45,CAC vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.2/3. It has a sigla of one point just to the left of 12:00.



Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 10:14:49 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41 King Bela II?);Huszar 99,Rethy I-87. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges to the left and right of the cross vertical in each of the upper left and right quadrants. The closest in CAC vol. II is 18.12/b4.2/52 except the 2 wedges on the right are facing the opposite direction.

2.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman (Kalman);Huszar 40,Unger 31,Rethy I-48,CAC vol. I/11.10/b2.1/36. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges under the C in CALMAN just above 3:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on May 08, 2019, 05:36:42 pm
Nice pieces,  ;) +++

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 08, 2019, 07:33:25 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 29, 2019, 10:37:38 am
1. 1519 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with "VNGARI" legend variation on reverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.

2. 1517 K-G with the same legend variation as the previous one.

3.1445/46 W-I,Interregnum II;Huszar 613,Unger 480h,Pohl 173-8.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Stephen III,1162-72?);Huszar 117a,Unger82,Rethy I-129,CAC vol. II/19.7.1.1/b1.26/77. It has a sigla of one small wedge in the lower right quadrant below intersection of large cross.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.17/18. It has a sigla of one small point upper right quadrant below and left of larger point.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 29, 2019, 10:44:11 am
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC vol. II/20.20.1.1/a 2.7/24. It has a sigla of one point above and below the third cross from the left.

7.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 35,Unger 26,Rethy I-43,Cac vol. I/11.6/a1b1.1/61. It has a sigla of one point and one wedge in the upper right quadrant of inner circle.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 02, 2019, 08:24:55 am
Dear Edward,

Great coins all, very nice collection... +++

Congratulation   ;)

Joe/Q.

p.s.

I was left for a few weeks...
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 02, 2019, 11:55:58 am
Thank you,Quadrans. I have been getting a lot of use out of the volume II of the catalogue. +++ :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 02, 2019, 12:00:24 pm
Thank you, Edward,

I'm happy if you like Vol II. and useful for you... +++ ;)

Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 19, 2019, 10:17:14 am
1. 1440/41 G-B Hungarian Denar (billon) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469f,Pohl 135-6.


2. 1358-71 Lily/point Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 542,Unger 429v var.,Pohl 79-6 var. I don't see this mint mark listed in the main catalogues.


3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);Huszar 159,Unger 60,Rethy I-49,CAC vol. II/20.13.1.1/a2.4/18. It has a sigla of two points straddling 3:00.


4.Contemporary counterfeit (silvered copper?) resembling the previous coin.


5.1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 39,Unger 32,Rethy I-47,CAC vol. I/11.9/a1.2/3. It has a sigla of one point at about 1:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 20, 2019, 03:23:50 pm
Nice coins, Edward,  :)

Congratulation    +++


Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 20, 2019, 04:16:11 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2019, 12:39:07 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Geza II,1141-62?);variation of Huszar 139,Unger 65,CAC vol. II/20.2.2.1/a1.7/8. It has a sigla of one point between 2:00 and 3:00 between two vertical lines.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Stephen III,1162-72?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131;CAC vol. II/19.8.1.1/b3.1/38. It has a sigla of three small wedges in upper left quadrant near the intersection of the two cross lines.

3.1329 Hungarian Parvus under King Charles Robert;Huszar 471,Unger 372,Pohl 38. This is the only non -denar I have,but added it because it is one of the few nedieval Hungarian coins with the Holy Lamb and flag.


4. 1385 G-m Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 569,Unger 443d,Pohl 114-4. It has a legen variation of REInA VnGARIE on obverse and MOnETA MARIA on reverse.


5. 1469 K-shield Hungarian Denar under Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562i,Pohl 216-9. It has a legend variation of PATROn on reverse.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 17, 2019, 05:15:20 pm
Great set of coins... +++

Congratulation Edward.

 :)

Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 17, 2019, 06:12:03 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 20, 2019, 09:04:31 pm
A lot of great coins, Edward, since I last logged on. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 09, 2019, 12:53:00 pm
1. 1526 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with VNGA legend variation on obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673o,Pohl 255-19.

2. 1517 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with VNGARI legend variation on reverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.

3. 1346-57 Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 532,Unger 420,Pohl 67.

4. 1339-42 S Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 497,Unger 394k,Pohl 54-11.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31 King Stephen II?);Huszar 92,Unger 41,Rethy I-76/77,CAC vol. II/18.7.1.1/a2.1/7. It has a sigla of 2 points at 12:00 above cross bar vertical.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on October 12, 2019, 01:17:40 pm
All nice, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 12, 2019, 02:24:42 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 12, 2019, 03:57:53 pm
Some more nice coins,  +++

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 12, 2019, 05:49:41 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 24, 2019, 02:00:48 pm
1. 1525 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with a legend varation of VNGARI obverse and VNGARIE reverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673o,Pohl 255-19.

2. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;variation of Huszar 41,Unger 34,CAC vol. I/11.12/a2.5/15. It has a sigla of one point above and below the second "A" in CALMAN at 7:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King Stephen III,1162-72?);Huszar 118,Rethy I131,CAC vol. II/19.8.1.1/a1.6/7. It has a sigla of one point lower quadrant near intersection of cross bars.

4.1704 K-B Hungarian Duarius under King Leopold I;Huszar 1499,Unger 1105.

5.1696 Hungarian Duarius under King Leopold I;Huszar 1499,Unger 1105.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 24, 2019, 02:06:42 pm
6. 1696 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1114.

7. 1689 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1114.

8. 1642 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953.

9. 1640 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 24, 2019, 02:40:11 pm
Wow, all great coins, Edwards   +++

Congratulation

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 24, 2019, 03:34:23 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 13, 2019, 11:36:13 am
1. 1630 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.

2.1626 K-B also under King Ferdinand II,Huszar 1204,Unger 917a.

3. 1522 A-B under King Louis II with VNGARI obv./VNGARIE rev. legend variation,Huszar 841,Unger 673b,Pohl 255-5. This was struck at the same time the Moneta Nova were being struck.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 13, 2019, 11:47:27 am
4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 145,Unger 68,Rethy I-125,CAC vol. II/20.5.1.1/a1.7/8.
It has a sigla of one point at 11:00 on left arm of what looks like omega.

5.
Anonymous Hungarian Denar  (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 159,Unger 60,Rethy I-149,CAC vol. II/20.13.1.1/a1.6/7.
It has a sigla of one point under crescent at about 1:00.

6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC vol. II/18.3.1.1/a2.10/24. It has a sigla of one point under each crescent near top of obverse.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 13, 2019, 04:59:12 pm
Nice coins all around,  +++

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 13, 2019, 06:42:35 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 13, 2019, 07:43:13 pm
All nice coins. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 18, 2019, 02:09:41 pm
1. 1116-31 Hungarian Denar under King Stephen II;Huszar 47,Unger 37,Rethy I-53,CAC Vol. I/12.6/b2.1/2. It has a sigla of one wedge on both sides of the bottom of the center vertical cross bar.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-35,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/h1.2/60. It has a sigla of one small cross close to 3:00.

3. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 49,Unger 44/Rethy I-57.CAC Vol. I/13.1/c1.2/14. It has a sigla of one vertical line at about 2:30.

2. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 54,Unger 50,Rethy I-56,CAC Vol. I/13.8/a2.16/30. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of center vertical bar,but a little below the center instead of above.

4.  Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Variation of Huszar 96,Unger 46,CAC Vol. II/18.10.1.4/a1r4/8. It has a sigla of one point inner cirle at about 3:00.

I got some of the pictures out of place. That is the reason for the descriptions out of order.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 18, 2019, 02:22:33 pm
1. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 49,Unger 44,Rethy I-57,CAC Vol. I/13.3 but sigla variety not listed. It has a sigla of one small cross above the E at about 9:00. This is one I have had for a few years.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1172-96,King Bela III?);Huszar 181,Unger 95,Rethy I-162,CAC Vol. II/20.21.1.1/c2.1/28. It has a sigla of one line on both sides of cross in upper right quadrant.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 18, 2019, 05:28:33 pm
Great coins, Edward,

The first one really interesting piece... +++

Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 18, 2019, 07:08:53 pm
Thank you.Quadrans. I had the pictures for 2 and 4 swapped.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 18, 2019, 10:00:45 pm
Nice coins. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2020, 12:35:27 pm
1. 1507 K-H Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation. The reverse was double struck.

2. 1509 K-G under King Wladislaus II with VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation.

3. 1511 K-G under King Wladislaus II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation.

4. 1512 K-G under King Wladislaus II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2020, 12:42:13 pm
5. 1514 K-G under King Wladislaus II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation and old style Madonna with rosettes on either side of her head.

6. 1516 K-G under King Wladislaus II with VNGARIE/VNGARIE legend variation.

7. 1516 K-G under King Louis II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation.

8. 1520 K=A under King Louis II with VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2020, 12:46:28 pm
9. 1521 K-A under King Louis II with VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation.

10. 1521 K-A under King Louis II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation.

11. 1526 K-A under King Louis II with VNGA/VNGARIE legend variation.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 05, 2020, 01:24:46 pm
Wow, Edward so many great coins...  ;) :)

Congratulation   +++

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2020, 01:36:09 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on February 08, 2020, 01:34:41 pm
Nice coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 27, 2020, 08:59:39 am
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 32,Unger 33,Rethy I-40,CAC Vol. I/11.2/b1.3/30. It has a sigla of one wedgeat about 4:00 between L and M in CALMAN.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/b1.17/62. It has a sigla of one wedge above and to the right of the cross. It could be a variation of the 62nd variety because the wedge points upward instead of downward but is in the correct position.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a1.21/22. It has a sigla of one point at top of vertical line to the right of the horizontal cross bar.

4. 1267-70 h-R Slavonian Denar under Bela IV,Grand Prince (Duke?) of Hungary and Henrik Nemetujvari;Unger Sz-10,Rengjeo 101-107.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 27, 2020, 09:04:42 am
5. 1582 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph I;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.

6. 1588 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph I;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.

7. 1679 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I,Huszar 1508,Unger 1107.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 27, 2020, 11:42:43 am
Wow, so many nice coins, Edward,  ;)

Congratulation   +++ +++

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 27, 2020, 12:32:26 pm
Thank you,Quadrans> :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on March 14, 2020, 08:09:12 am
Edward, have you ever considered creating a gallery so that we could all better enjoy your extensive collection and use it as a resource? Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 24, 2020, 01:41:57 pm
1.  Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/a2.8/17. It has a sigla of 2 small points inside the N in the upper right quadrant.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a1.21/22. It has a sigla of one small point beside a larger point at 3:30.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/b1.5/37. It has a sigla of one small wedge under cross at about 2:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 24, 2020, 01:56:58 pm
All of these are Anonymous Hungarian Denars (1131-41,King Bela II?).

4. Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC Vol. II/18.3.1.1/a1.13/14. It has a sigla of one point on line inside crescent at 3:00.

5. Huszar 89,Unger 48,Rethy I-74,CAC Vol. II/18.5.1.1/c2.6/54. It has a sigla of 2 perpendicular lines with a space between them at 2:00.

6.Variation of Huszar 96,Unger 46,Rethy I-81,CAC Vol. II/18.10.1.2/c4.2/3. It has a sigla of small horizontal lines at 12:00,3:00,6:00 and 9:00.

7. Variation of Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-83,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/a2.4/9. It has a sigla of one point above and below left arm of horizontal cross bar at 12:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 24, 2020, 05:25:49 pm
Wow, all great examples... +++

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 24, 2020, 07:42:06 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on March 26, 2020, 09:05:17 pm
Nice additions. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 26, 2020, 09:16:20 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 04, 2020, 01:20:47 pm
These are the last ones I received before the stay at home started. This will be it until the Covid-19 is over.

1. 1603 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph II;Huszar 1060,Unger 812,KM-16. It is very double struck making the date look like 603.

2. 1602 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph II;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 161,Unger 80,Rethy I-151,CAC Vol. II/20.15.1.1/g1.4/49. It has a sigla of one star on horizontal cross bar at 2:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a1.25/26. It has a sigla of one small point in lower right quadrant of center cross.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 04, 2020, 01:40:04 pm
5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/b1.1/54. It has a sigla of one small wedge to the right of the horizontal bar at 3:00.

6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Variation of Husxar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-84,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/a4.3/29. It has a sigla of one point above and below the horizotal bar on each end at 3:00 and 9:00.

7. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 139,Unger 65,Rethy I-118,CAC Vol. II/20.2.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

8. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.11/12. It has a sigla of one small point touching a small wedge at about 2:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 08, 2020, 11:26:45 am
Great coins, Edward  +++ ;)

 Joe/Q.

p.s.

Sorry the late replay, but I1m very busy now, because of my Job, this serious situation... :(

 Regards
Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 08, 2020, 12:34:28 pm
Thank you,Quadrans.  :)

These were the last ones I received before the stay at home started and will be it until this coronavirus emergency is over.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 08, 2020, 12:38:38 pm
It's OK, Stay Home, in the safety and healthy circumstances... +++

 Regards

 Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 08, 2020, 10:25:29 pm
Nice coins, Edward. Be well! Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 09, 2020, 10:25:09 am
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Marco M4 on May 02, 2020, 03:53:24 pm
Hi friends, I'm new to the forum.
I bought this unknown coin that came from Eastern countries (former Yugoslavia).
(http://s15.imagestime.com/out.php/i1186586_DinarLuigiI.png) (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1186586_DinarLuigiI.png.html)
From a search in your forum I saw that it could resemble the Hungarian saracen head coin minted during the reign of Louis I of Anjou. On one side of the coin there is a patriarchal cross with random dots. On the other side of the coin there appears to be a saracen head.
(http://s15.imagestime.com/out.php/i1186590_Dirittoconimmagine.jpg) (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1186590_Dirittoconimmagine.jpg.html)
The inscriptions on the coin do not appear to be those of Huszár 547 or a Huszár 550.
Already the Angevin king Charles I (1308-1342), father of Luigi instituted a series of mint for the collection of the lucrum camerae tax (delivery of old money to replace it with new production money with the application of a commission for the benefit of the royal coffers) throughout the country: in addition to Buda, Esztergom, Szerém, Csanád and Slavonia also in Körmöcbánya, Szomolnok, Szatmár, Várad, Transylvania and Pécs.
Is it possible that the coin was issued with the consent of King Louis I from one of the vassal states of the Kingdom of Hungary: Wallachia, Banat of Severin, Moldova, Bosnia, Serbia ????????
In the inscriptions we find the following possible letters:
(Cross) ?A????ADVWO(or G or E)AIVO
(Saracen Head) ?HOMHTO????

In some contemporary coins of Wallachia
(http://s15.imagestime.com/out.php/i1186592_Walacchia2.png) (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1186592_Walacchia2.png.html)
(http://s15.imagestime.com/out.php/i1186591_Walacchia1.png) (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1186591_Walacchia1.png.html)
we find similar inscriptions such as:
………AI WODI…………..
………..WOIDEI………….
……….WAIWOD………..
To indicate a woiwode (voevoda, voivod, vojvoda, voevod, vaivode, wojewoda, voyvoda, voyevoda, woywode, vojvode) a vassal of the king of hungary.

is there any source to consult?
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on May 02, 2020, 04:42:32 pm
Welcome to the forum, Marco.

It is an interesting coin. Perhaps it is a contemporary counterfeit of a Saracen head denar with a blundered inscription? This might be the case as the metal content appears to be all bronze without even a hint of silver. Of course, hazarding metal content based on a photo is unreliable.

By the way, you would have been best off creating a new topic for the coin rather than tacking it onto Edward's thread.

I am sure that I don't speak only for myself when I say that I hope to see more coins and posts from you.

Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 04, 2020, 12:37:18 pm
1. 1116-31 Hungarian Denar under King Stephen II;variation of Huszar 47,Unger 37,Rethy I-53,CAC Vol. I/12.6.2/b2d2.1/9. It has a sigla of crescents on both sides of center cross near 12:00 and wedges on both sides of center cross near 6:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/h2.1/62. It has a sigla of a cross on both sides of larger cross between 1:00 and 3:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 150,Unger 74,Rethy I-144,CAC Vol. II/20.8.1.1/b1.5/46.. It has a sigla of a small wedge on the right side of small horizontal cross bar near 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/b1.27/64. It has a sigla of a small wedge pointing down in upper right quadrant near intersection of cross bars.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/b1.6/33. It has a sigla of a small wedge below and to the right of small cross near 3:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 04, 2020, 12:45:04 pm
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118, Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/a2.4/13. It has a sigla of one point in upper right and lower left quadrants near intersection of cross bars.

7. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC Vol. II/19.5.1.1/a1.33/34. It has a sigla of one point on bottom of vertical cross bar near 6:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 04, 2020, 01:50:34 pm
Nice additions, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 04, 2020, 03:15:03 pm
Great coins and great variations 😀👍😉

Regards

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 04, 2020, 03:30:34 pm
Thank you,Stkp and Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 23, 2020, 01:41:30 pm
1.  1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;  huszar 40,Unger 31,Rethy I-48,CAC Vol. I/11.10/a1c1.2/69. It Has a sigla of one small point above a small line in upper right quadrant near intersection of cross bars.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a3.7/22. It has a sigla of a small point between small cross and larger central points at 1:00,4:00,and 7:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.3/4. It has a sigla of one small point to the right of the vertical cross bar near 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a2.16/53. It has a sigla of a small point in upper left and lower right quadrants between larger central points and intersection of cross bars.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 139,Unger 65,Rethy I-118,CAC Vol. II/20.2.1.1/b1.3/22. It has a sigla of one small wedge in upper left quadrant between small and large horizontal cross bars.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 25, 2020, 02:06:35 pm
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 171,Unger 85,Rethy I-157,CAC Vol. II/20.18.1.1/b1.1/33. It has a sigla of one small wedge at 12:00.

7. 1526 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 841,Unger 673o,Pohl 255-19.

8. 1627 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1204,Unger 917a.

9. 1637 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 25, 2020, 06:08:30 pm
It is OK, Edward, 👍

Great group, so many nice variation...😲😉

Congratulation 👍

Regards

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 26, 2020, 08:08:25 am
Thank you Quadrans, :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on July 31, 2020, 09:58:24 pm
Quite a few very nice coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 01, 2020, 01:07:42 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2020, 01:20:22 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a3.8/36. It has a sigla of 3 points in a line at about 4:00.

2.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 92,Unger 41,Rethy I-76/77,CAC Vol. II/18.7.1.1/c2.1/53. It has a sigla of one small line on both sides of small cross at about 2:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c3.2/62. It has a sigla of 2 small parallel lines and one perpendicular to them near small cross at 1:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);var. of Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-84,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/b1.2/34. It has a sigla of a small wedge at about 3:30 next to larger wedge.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 76,Unger 42,Rethy I-65,CAC Vol. II/18.1.1.1/h1.8/112. It has a sigla of a small cross in upper right quadrant between larger point and and wedge just above horizontal cross bar.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2020, 01:38:12 pm
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 145,Unger 68,Rethy I-125,CAC Vol. II/20.5.1.1/b1.9/31. It has a sigla of one small wedge pointing against a larger wedge on a line at 2:00.

7. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?). This one had me stumped because of the letters looking like H's instead of N's and thanks to Quadrans informing me that the Huszar 117 would have a larger diameter and thinner. I guess this would be a variation of Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/b1.13/35. It has a sigla of one small wedge above and to the right of the "N" that looks more like an "H" in lower right quadrant.

8. Anonymous Hungarian Denar;1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 171,Unger 85,Rethy I-157,CAC Vol. II/20.18.1.1/b1.24/56. It has a sigla of one small wedge pointing up in center of obverse on second vertical line.

9. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 140,Unger 81,Rethy I-119,CAC Vol. II/20.3.1.1/a1.3/4. It has a sigla of one point to the left of the top of the vertical cross bar near 12:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 19, 2020, 02:49:50 pm
Great series,  ;) :)

Congratulation   +++

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 19, 2020, 04:01:32 pm
Thank you,Quadrans> :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 19, 2020, 12:04:02 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 80,Rethy I-67,CAC Vol. II/18.2.1.1/a4.3/33. It has a sigla of 2 points on both sides of vertical cross bar near 6:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a4.2/18. It has a sigla of one points on both sides of crosses near 2:00 and 6:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a1.8/9. It has a sigla of one point to the right of the top of cross near 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/b1.1/28. It has a sigla of one wedge at the base of cross at 12:00.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen !!!?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a1.10/11. It has a sigla of one point on the botoom of crescent near 2:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 19, 2020, 12:16:13 pm
6. 1205-35 Hungarian Denar under King Andreas II;Huszar 269,Unger 162.

7. 1512 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with an VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 811,Unger 646c,Pohl 253-4.

8. 1575 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 993,Unger 767a.

9. 1575 H-S Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 994,Unger 766b.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on September 19, 2020, 05:02:28 pm
All nice coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 19, 2020, 05:45:30 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 20, 2020, 11:31:53 am
Hi, Edward,  ;) :) +++

Great coins,

One note: the last coin of the first group looks like it has been burned, isn’t such a surface natural, does a closer look show something wrong?

 Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 23, 2020, 01:39:15 pm
Under magnification in sunlight the darker areas do show coloring like it is toning,but it does look like it could have been in the ground for a short time.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 23, 2020, 02:13:23 pm
Its surface looks a bit blistered not as smooth as the others, so I thought it might have burned sometime long ago.

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 10, 2020, 12:34:27 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c3.3/63. It has a sigla of one vertical line and 2 parallel horizontal lines to the right of the small cross near 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.10/15.. It has a sigla of one small point inside of small crosses at 2:00 and 5:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/b1.3/30. It has a sigla of  one wedge to the right of the top of vertical cross bar near 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/b1.6/38. It has a sigla of a wedge to the inside of cross near 2:00 pointing toward the center of the coin.

5. 1339-42 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 497,Unger 394a.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 10, 2020, 12:43:34 pm
These aren't medieval but I didn't see any where else to post them.

6. 1621 A-I Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen;Huszar Transylvania 451. Part of the rim is slightly curled upward to the right of the Madonna.

7. 1635 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II,Huszar 1205,Unger II 916c.

8. 1703 K-B Hungarian Duarius (2 Duarius=3 Denar) under King Leopold I;Huszar 1499,Unger II 1105.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 10, 2020, 02:51:00 pm
Hi Edward,

Nice group 👍

The last one (duarius) are under the King Leopold I.

Regards

Joe/Q.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 10, 2020, 03:18:04 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. I forgot to put that in there. I also put my order in for the CAC Vol. III. I procrastinated long enough. +++
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 10, 2020, 03:47:27 pm
It is OK,

I hope you will enjoy the Volume Ill. Same as the other two..

😀👍😉

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 03, 2020, 12:51:27 pm
This is one of the coins from the last group. I was waiting for Vol. III of the catalogue. It is a 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 69,Unger 101,CAC Vol. III/22.10.1.1/0.1/1. It has what looks like a very faint point to the right of the base of the "B" but definitely no circle around it so I have it as with no sigla.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 03, 2020, 02:21:29 pm
Yes, Edward

I agree...

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 12, 2020, 01:49:39 pm
1.  Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c2.2/56. It has a sigla of one line perpendicular to the rim on both sides of small cross at 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c2.4/58. It has a sigla of one line parallel to the rim on both sides of small cross at 2:00.

3.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC Vol. II/18.3.1.1/c2.3/66. It has a sigla of one small line under each crescent near the top of the obverse.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/b1.17/54. It has a sigla of one small wedge pointing toward the small horizontal cross bar near 3:00 (I have the coin rotated incorrectly;it should be near 12:00).

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/g1.3/44. It has a sigla of one small star in the lower right quadrant under the horizontla cross bar.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 12, 2020, 01:58:05 pm
6. 1390-1427 Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxembourgh with a 2 points mint mark above the shield;Huszar 576,Unger 449d,Pohl 117-43.

7. 1528 K-B Hybrid Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with points on both sides of the date on obverse and rosettes under the Madonna on reverse;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

8. 1632 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.

9. 1694 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1114.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 12, 2020, 01:59:03 pm
Nice group
Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 12, 2020, 02:53:31 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! +++ :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 26, 2020, 12:29:28 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-171,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.5/10. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of the small cross at 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar, (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-171,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a4.1/24. It has a sigla of two small points on both sides of the small cross at 2:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/b1.4/25. It has a sigla of one wedge at 8:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/a2.8/16. It has a sigla of one small point below and to the left and above and to the right of the larger point in the upper left quadrant.

5. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV,Huszar 299,Unger 222,CAC Vol. III/22.31.1.2/a3.2/11. It has a sigla of a small point in the central circle on the reverse at 3:00,^:00,and 9:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 26, 2020, 12:37:34 pm
6. 1338 S-m Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393j.

7. 1638 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II 9posthumous);Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.

8. 1638 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953.

9. 1752 K-B Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria Theresa with baby Jesus in right arm;Huszar 1748,Unger 1268.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 29, 2020, 03:41:13 am
Great coins Edward,

Congratulation 👍

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 29, 2020, 11:10:00 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on November 29, 2020, 08:05:10 pm
Edward, You have added a lot of very nice coins since I last checked in. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 30, 2020, 03:01:05 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2021, 12:11:48 pm
It took 4 months plus a week to receive these in the mail.

1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.2/34. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges at 2:00.

2. This one is the same type as the first one except CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.5/37. It has a sigla of small wedges next to crosses at 2:00 and 4:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/c2.3/40. It has a sigla of 2 small lines at 4:00 and 8:00 between larger lines.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a1.16/17. It has a sigla of a small point at 12:00 above the central cross.. It has a tiny hole that you can barely see light through next to the "N" at 9:00.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/g1.1/38. It has a sigla of a small star at 1:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 07, 2021, 12:22:34 pm
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC Vol. II/19.5.1.1/b1.20/78. It has a sigla of one small wedge on the horizontal cross bar between the "S's".

7. 1338 B-V Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393f,Pohl 52-8. It is slightly bent.

8. 1526 B-P Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 841,Unger 673p,Pohl 255-20. The rim is cracked just before the "P" in PATRONA.

9. 1625 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1204,Unger 917a. The "6" in the date was double struck.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 10, 2021, 01:36:50 am
Hi Edward,

Nice to hear from you again.
I hope you are healthy ...

Congratulation to your last great group
Of coins 👍

Regards

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2021, 08:31:20 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 10, 2021, 07:25:02 pm
It is a nice group of coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 10, 2021, 09:21:55 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2021, 12:20:34 pm
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 32,Unger 33,Rethy I-40,CAC Vol. I/11.2/a2.5/17. It has a sigla of 2 points under the "L" in CALMAN close to 3:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a2.4/9.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/h1.1/65. It has a sigla of one small cross just before the cross in the design at 2:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.3,c2.1/86. It has a sigla of one wertical line in upper left and right quadrants just above the horizontal cross bar.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/g1.2/43. It has a sigla of one small star above the "N" in the lower right quadrant.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 15, 2021, 12:26:30 pm
6. 1338 A-A Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393b,Pohl 52-7.

7. 1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1203,Unger 916b.

8. 1663 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1506,Unger 1110.

9. 1667 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1508,Unger 1107.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on May 16, 2021, 05:52:39 pm
Nice additions. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 16, 2021, 08:49:51 pm
Thank you,Stkp.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 09, 2021, 12:49:34 pm
All nice additions, Edward, Congratulation  +++

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 09, 2021, 07:48:19 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 19, 2021, 11:38:36 am
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 41,Unger 34,CAC Vol. I/11.11/h1.1/30. It has a sigla of one small cross at about 3:00 just after the "L" in CALMAN.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a1.4/5. It has a sigla of one point at 12:00 just above the central cross.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.3/a6.1/42. It has a sigla of one point in upper left and right quadrantsjust above the horizontal cross bar and at both ends of the crescents at 10:00 and 2:00. Just imagine the picture rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a3.3/12. It has a sigla of 3 points in a straight line near 3:00.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/b1.7/44. It has a sigla of one small wedge next to the wedge in the design near 2:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 19, 2021, 11:42:03 am
Wow,

Again a nice group  +++

 I like that  ;) :)

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 19, 2021, 12:00:37 pm
6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1172-96,King Bela III?);Huszar 181,Unger 95,Rethy I-162,CAC Vol. II/21.21.1.1/c3.2/34. It has a sigla of 3 lines separate from each other that forms a suared "U" at 12:30.

7. 1373-82 Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 548,Unger 433,Pohl 90. This type has a crown at the base of the bouble cross.

8. 1690 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1110.

9. 1698 Hungarian Duarius (3Denar=2Duarius);Huszar 1499,Unger 1104a.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 19, 2021, 12:02:29 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 14, 2021, 01:33:29 pm
I finally received these after 10 weeks and a day! :)

1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.9/14. It has a sigla of two points above the vertical cross bar at 12:00.

2 Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.3/h1.3/96. It has a sigla of a small cross in the upper right quadrant just above the intersection of the cross bars.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 92,Unger 41,Rethy I-76/77,CAC Vol. II/18.7.1.1/a1.5/6. It has a sigla of one small piont to the right of the larger point in the upper right quadrant.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/a1.13/14. It has a sigla of a small point in the upper left quadrant under the small horizontal cross bar.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 14, 2021, 01:43:05 pm
5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1161-71,King Stephen III?);Huszar 171,Unger 85,Rethy I-157,CAC Vol. II/20.18.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

6. 1463 B-S Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 706,Unger 556c,Pohl 206-3.

7. 1489 K-P Roseete Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus (Baby Jesus with Glory);Huszar 722,Unger 567e,Pohl 223-2.

8. 1524 L-RN Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with the numbers of the date around the crest;Huszar 853,Unger 677b,Pohl 258-34.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 14, 2021, 03:53:56 pm
Nice group, Edward again... :) ;)

Congratulation... +++

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 14, 2021, 07:26:31 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on September 25, 2021, 12:49:36 pm
Great coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 28, 2021, 03:58:40 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 26, 2021, 01:08:42 pm
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 42,Unger 34A;CAC Vol. I/11.13/a1c3/17. It has a sigla of lines just before 3:00 and just after 9:00,a point inside a crescent at 4:00,and line at about 5:00 near the crescent. The reverse was double struck.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.1/68. It has a sigla of one cross on both sides of the main cross at 2:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Variation of Huszar 102,Unger 53,CAC Vol. ii/18.13.2.1/b2.1/10. It has a sigla of 2 small wedgesat about 12:30 just before the "E". Also,the "E" is reversed in the legend.

4. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 49,Unger 44,Rethy I-57,CAC Vol. I/13.1/c1.3/15. It has a sigla of one small line at about 5:00.

5. 1373-82 Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 547 var,Unger 432a var,Pohl 89-1 var. It has a star in the legend between REGIS and HVNGARIE on reverse.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 26, 2021, 01:16:57 pm
6. 1462 n_E Hungarian Denar (copper) under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 704,Unger 555g,Pohl 204-7.

7. 1463 B-I Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 706,Unger 556b,Pohl 206-2. The "N" is missing from MONETA on obverse.

8. 1633 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c. It has a legend variation of 2 points before FER at about 11:00.

9. 1693 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1114.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on October 27, 2021, 10:00:58 am
Wow  ;)

A nice group again ... +++

Regards

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on October 27, 2021, 11:51:19 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 30, 2021, 01:22:53 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.4/36. It has a sigla of one small wedge on both sides of the cross at 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC Vol. II/19.5.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

3. 1235070 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 294,Unger 213,Rethy I-229,CAC Vol. III/22.24.1.1/e1.1/2.1/a3.1/1.8.

4. 1267-70 h-R Slavonian Denar under Henrik Nemetujvari Ban as vassal of Bela IV Grand Prince of Hungary;Unger Sz-11.

5. This one is interesting. A 1387-89 Hybrid Hungarian Denar (billon) under King Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 575 obvverse/576 reverse,Unger 448 obverse/449 reverse,Pohl 116 obverse/117 reverse. The "I" is missing from SIGIMUND(I). This is not in the old catalogs but it is listed in Lengyel (Ezustkonyv III) 27/2.1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 30, 2021, 01:32:26 pm
6. 1495/96 K-M/AF/B Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 803,Unger 638d,Pohl 238-3. It is a variant with a smaller "B" in the mint mark.

7. 1517 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.

8. 1569 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 992,Unger 766a.

9. 1641 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1263,Unger 953.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on November 30, 2021, 05:31:37 pm
Great collection Edward,

The Hybrid Sigismund is interesting,

 This is mine :

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=153834

Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 30, 2021, 07:50:05 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. The one you have is really nice and is higher grade silver. I am wondering if with the weaker silver and the missing "I" in SIGIMUNDI if it could be a contemporary counterfeit. Also,the "U" does not look the same.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 01, 2021, 03:23:26 am
Hi Edwards,

The missing letter or letters are frequent in this era, mostly at the end of the legends.
The letters are good shaped, only the low silver content is not really useful at this denars.

Regards

 Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 05, 2022, 12:42:10 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 92,Unger 41,Rethy I-76/77,CAC Vol. II/18.7.1.1/d2.1/67. It has a sigla of a crescent on both sides of the small cross at 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c1.5/53. It has a sigla of one line under the small cross at 2:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 171,Unger 85,a2.5/25. It has a sigla of one point in the upper and lower right quadrants of the cross at 3:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Variation of Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-83,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.1/c2.1/50. It has a sigla of one small line above and below the horizontal cross bar to the left of the wedges on the right.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 05, 2022, 12:52:06 pm
6. 1479-86 K-P Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 719,Unger 565b,Pohl 221-1.

7. 1527 K-T Hungarian Denar under King John Zapolya;Huszar 881,Unger 699l,Pohl 265-14.

8. 1527 C-M Hungarian Denar under King John Zapolya,Huszar 881,Unger 699a,Pohl 265-3. It has 2 rosettes under the Madonna.

9. 1631 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c. It has 2 points before FER on obverse.

10. 1636 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand ii;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on January 05, 2022, 02:18:23 pm
Very nice coins, Edward... +++

IOHANNES (John Zapolya) is one of my favorite ... :)  ;) +++

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 05, 2022, 03:53:51 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2022, 12:12:27 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.4/9. It has a sigla of 2 points to the right of the cross at 2:00.

2.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/a3.1/17. It has a sigla of 3 points in a triangle next to vertical cross bar at 12;30.

3. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 49,Unger 44,Rethy I-57,CAC Vol. I/13.1/d1.3/20. It has a sigla of a crescent close to 6:00.

4.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/b1.6/38. It has a sigla of a small wedge under the cross at 2:00.

5. Contemporary counterfeit copper Hungarian Denar (1162-72, King Stephen III?);resembling Huszar 161,Unger 80,Rethy I-151,CAC Vol. II/20.15.1.1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 05, 2022, 12:20:22 pm
6. Contemporary counterfeit copper Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);resembling Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC Vol. II/19.5.1.1.

7. 1479 K-VA Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 719,Unger 565d,Pohl 220-7.

8. 1525 L-RN Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 853,Unger 677b,Pohl 258-33. The damage near Madonna's head could be from the strike.

9. 1526 A-V/HK Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673a,Pohl 255-11.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 10, 2022, 11:58:47 am
Nice group,  ;) :) +++

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 10, 2022, 12:47:29 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on February 21, 2022, 06:57:41 pm
A large number of great new coins since I last checked in (its been a while). Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 22, 2022, 01:02:05 pm
Thank you,Stkp. The mail situation improved dramatically this year.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 22, 2022, 01:28:01 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c1.2/50. It has a sigla of one line to the left of the small cross at 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/b1.1/22. It has a sigla of a small wedge to theright of the "E" at about 2:00.

3.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a1.4/5. It has a sigla of a small point in the right side of the "N" after 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. 19.8.1.1/a1.2/3. It has a sigla of one small point to the right the vertical cross bar close to 12:00.

5. 1383-87 A (barred "A" in mint mark) Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 569,Unger 443c,Pohl 114-3.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 22, 2022, 01:39:58 pm
6. 1387-95 Point mint mark Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 566,Unger 442,Pohl 112. This is not in the older catalogues. Lengyel shows this with points going around the cross like the previous coin but this has no points.

7. 1496 K-M/AF-B Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with a much smaller "B" in the mint mark;Huszar 803,Unger 638d,Pohl 238-3.

8. 1525 L-# Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675y,Pohl 258-9.

9. 1609 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Matthias II;Huszar 1139,Unger 868.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on February 23, 2022, 03:03:16 am
Again a nice group,

Queen Maria is one of my favorite...  +++

Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on February 23, 2022, 06:55:46 am
Thank you,Quadrans, :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 09, 2022, 10:53:24 am
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 32,Unger 33,Rethy I-40,CAC Vol. I/11.2/0.1/1. It has no sigla and the reverse was double struck.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a2.3/16. It has a sigla of 2 points before the "E" at 1:00. What is after the "E" is probably die damage.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/b2.2/27. It has a sigla of 2 wedges after the "E" at 2:30. It has a lot of copper on the surface.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 09, 2022, 11:01:03 am
5. 1387-95 Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria with the dotted inner circle;Huszar 566,Unger 442a,Pohl 112-1.

6. The same type as the previous coin except with a solid line inner circle.

7. 1456-57 n-E Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus V;Huszar 668,Unger 525c,Pohl 190-5.

8. 1571 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 992,Unger 766a.

9. 1639 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 07, 2022, 01:00:54 pm
1. 1116-31 Hungarian Denar under King Stephen II with a normal "S" between crosses;CAC Vol. I/12.10/b2.1/2. It has a sigla of one wedge on both sides of the base of the center cross.

2. 1116-31 Hungarian Denar under King Stephen II with reverse "S's" between crosses;CAC Vol. I/12.10.1/c2.1/3. It has a sigla of a slanted line on both sides of the base of the center cross.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84, Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b3.1/40. It has a sigla of 3 small wedges before the small cross at 2:00.

4. Copper contemporary counterfeit resembling the type of the previous coin.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 07, 2022, 01:14:15 pm
5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?) with normal lines in the legend;Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c2.8/73. It has a sigla of one small line at 5:00 and 7:00.

6. The same type of coin and sigla as the previous one except some of the lines in the legend are doubled.

7. 1456 B-P Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus V. It is only recorded in Unger as 524e but the same type as Huszar 665 and Pohl 188.

8. 1497 K-SE Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 803,Unger 638e,Pohl 238-4. It has the shield superimposed on the Madonna and the Madonna superimposed on the shield.

9. 1543 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a. It has a legend variation of 2 large and one small rosettes under the Madonna.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 31, 2022, 01:02:26 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.6/11. It has a sigla of a point just before and under the small cross 2:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/a3.2/18. It has a sigla of three points in a row after the "E" at about 2:00.

3. 1346-49Hungarian Denar under King Louis I;Huszar 529,Unger 419,Pohl 66. This design was a cary over from King Charles Robert.

4. 1390-1427 Lily Hungarian Denar under King Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449h,Pohl 117-10.

5. 1501-02 Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II,Huszar 809,Unger 644a,Pohl 245-1. It is a variant with an eagle in the shield.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 31, 2022, 01:10:03 pm
6 and 7. 1540 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a. The one on the left has a rosette before and after the date and the one on the right has a point before and after the date. Both have a point between the "15" and "40" in the date.

8. 1580 H-S Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph I;Huszar 1062,Unger 811b.

9. 1699 K-B Hungarian Duarius under King leopold I;Huszar 1499,Unger 1104a.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 03, 2022, 07:07:46 am
Congratulations, Edwards…👍

Great coins…

Sorry the last few months was very busy in my life …

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Joe Sermarini on June 13, 2022, 11:19:27 am
Great collection. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 13, 2022, 11:31:07 am
Yes I agree 👍😉🤗

Joe as Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 14, 2022, 12:20:45 pm
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 22, 2022, 12:47:07 pm
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 34,Unger 30,Rethy I-42,CAC Vol. I/11.5/h1.3/68. It has a sigla of a small cross to the right of the base of the right most vertical cross bar.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC Vol. II/18.3.1.1/a2.7/21. It has a sigla of 2 points on the left side of the small cross at 4:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2,a3.3/19. It has a sigla of 3 points in a straight line after the "E" between 2:00 and 3:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c3.1/74. It has a sigla of 2 horizontal and one vertical line before the "E" at about 12:30.

5. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 357,Unger 268,Rethy I-297,CAC Vol. III/22.50.1.1/k1.1/3. It has a sigla of a point within a small circle at 9:00 within the inner circle.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 22, 2022, 12:57:50 pm
6. 1501-02 K-h Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with the Madonna's legs going all of the way to the rim;Huszar 807,Unger 641,Pohl 242.

7. 1508 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 811,Unger 646c,Pohl 253-4.

8 and 9.  Both are 1541 K-B Hungarian Denars under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a. The one on the left has rosettes before and after the date and 2 rosettes under the Madonna and a rosette on each side of her head. The one on the right has 3 rosettes under the Madonna and a point between the "15" and "40" in the date.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 29, 2022, 01:49:07 pm
Hi Edward, nice coins  +++

The last Ferdinands coin is interesting..:)

The Habsbourg Volume of our series will be mentioned this type of differences...still going on but needs time to find some other variations..
Slowly the Anjou Volume will be the next edition..

Regards

 Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 29, 2022, 06:06:52 pm
Thank you,Quadrans,I was going to ask if the Volume 4 is getting close to coming out. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: DzikiZdeb on June 30, 2022, 01:35:23 am

The Habsbourg Volume of our series will be mentioned this type of differences...still going on but needs time to find some other variations..
Slowly the Anjou Volume will be the next edition..


From what I understand, have you changed your priorities for the publication of subsequent volumes chronologically? I remember a note on publisher's website that the planned volume 4 would be devoted to much later times. I can't find it now, but was it something from late Transylvania?
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 16, 2022, 02:00:34 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c2.1/66. It has a sigla of 2 parallel lines just before the "E" at about 12:30.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c2.7/72. It has a sigla of 2 lines after the "E" at about 2:30 perpendicular to each other.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c3.1/74. It has a sigla of 2 horizontal and one vertical line making what looks like a backward "LI" at about 12:30.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a2.10,47. It has a sigla of one point above and to the left and one point below and to the right of the horizontal cross bar close to 3:00.

5. 1440-44 I-h Hungarian Denar under King Wladsislaus I;Huszar 602,Unger 477b,Pohl 140-3.


Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 16, 2022, 02:08:43 pm
6. 1442-43 h-T Hungarian Denae under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 607,Unger 472,Pohl 145,Lengyel IV 29/9/19. This mint mark is only included in the Lengyel catalogue.

7. 1535 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

8. 1536 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

9. 1552 H-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 744q. It has an "VNGA" legend variation and the "D" (DEI) is missing after the "D" in FERDINAND.

Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 27, 2022, 11:07:58 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c6.1/76. It has a sigla of three parallel lines on both sides of the "E" between 12:00 and 3:00.

2. Exact same type of coin and same sigla except a reverse variation of a cross and 7 lines instead of a cross and 6 lines going around the outer circle.

3. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 50,Unger 43,Rethy I-59,CAC Vol. I/13.4/a6.21/135. It has a sigla of large point at about 2:00,4:00 and 6:00 as well as small points at about 8:00,10:00 and 11:00. It also has more lines on the reverse legend including a pair of parallel lines.


4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/b1.26/79. It has a sigla of one small wedge under the horizontal cross bar near 3:00.


5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a2.10/36. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of the line near 4:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 27, 2022, 11:16:16 am
6. 1458-60 B-S Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus (billon);Huszar 699,Unger 553b,Pohl 199-2.

7. 1542 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I,Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

8. 1544 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

9. 1552 H-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 948,Unger 745k.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on September 03, 2022, 11:33:09 am
Hi Edward,

So many nice coins and variations... +++

Congratulation

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 03, 2022, 02:32:20 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Jan P on September 04, 2022, 04:26:43 am
Dear Edward D,
Yesterday, I got an Hungarian (Slavonian) Denar, Lásló IV, type: Marten between rosettes/Double Cross with royal heads.
The legend says: MONETA REGIS UNGARIA instead of "Moneta Regis Esclavonia". Letters beside the cross are R - L.
It might be the type which Numista has listed up without picture,  with references ÉH#17 and their own number N#79205.
The description of the coin there does not fit totally my piece, where they say:"Obverse no pearl circle".
I have the legend running between two pearl circles.
Would it not be more efficient to show you a picture? Certainly! But I do not want to infect your nice topic with a picture of mine.
Yes, I could start a new topic with the picture of my coin, but I want to be certain of your attention.
Hoping you can give me the correct reference for my coin, I am waiting for your instructions.
With congratulations on this interesting topic!
Jan P.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Cosmin T on September 06, 2022, 09:38:06 am
Károly Róbert (1307-1342) denár
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Cosmin T on September 06, 2022, 09:42:07 am
Bronze denar?
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 20, 2022, 12:31:39 pm
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a2.12/25. It has a sigla of one point above and to the left and onepoint below and to the right of the larger point in the upper right quadrant.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (King bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/b1.4/48. It has a sigla of one small wedge at about 8:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);CAC Vol. II/18.10.1.4/a1r4.1/8. It has a sigla of one small point in the inner circle at 3:00 and small squares in the outer circle at about 3:00,6:00,9:00,and 12:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/a2.7/26. It has a sigla of one small point to the left and right of the small cross in the upper right quadrant.

5. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King bela II;Huszar 50,Unger 43,Rethy I-59,CAC Vol. I/13.4/a1c1.3/219. It has a sigla of  a small line next to the "L" at 3:00 and a point at 6:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on September 20, 2022, 12:40:30 pm
6. 1442 (Huszar,Unger,Pohl) 1443/44 (Lengyel) Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with an A-reverse B mint mark;Huszar 605,Unger 470,Pohl 141-1. This mint mark is only in Pohl.

7. 1498-1503 K-H Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with a legend variety containing reverse "N's".Huszar 807 var,Unger 641 var,Pohl 242-2 var. It is not listed in the main catalogues.

8. 1537 K-B Hungarian Denar under King ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

9. 1539 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 03, 2022, 11:30:04 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,REthy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c2.4/69. It has a sigla of two lines after the "E" just before 3:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/c2.8/73. It has a sigla of one line at 5:00 and 7:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a2.1/27. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of the cross at 12:00.

4. 1390-1427 Hungarian Denar under King Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449v,Pohl 117-9.

5. 1527 L-K Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673u,Pohl 255-38.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on November 03, 2022, 11:35:28 am
6 and 7. Both are 1529 K-B Hungarian Denars under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a. They both looked so nice.

8. 1685 K-B Hungarian Denar under King leopold I;Huszar 1509,Unger 1110.

9. 1740 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Charles III;Huszar 1642,Unger 1210b.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 03, 2022, 11:34:27 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a6.1/41. It has a sigla of 3 points in a triangle before and after the "E" at about 12:30 and 2:30.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a2.3/16. It has a sigla of 2 points before the "E" at about 12:30.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 145,Unger 68,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/10.5.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

4.1387-95 rosette-rosette Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 566,Unger 442,Pohl 112-5.

5. 1390-1427 T Hungarian Denar under King Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449aa,Pohl 117-37.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 03, 2022, 11:41:00 am
6. 1507 K-H Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with an VNGAR/VNGARI legend variation;Huszar 811,Unger 646b,Pohl 283-3.

7. 1546 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with reverse "N's" in the legend;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.

8. 1616 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Matthias II;Huszar 1141,Unger 870.

9. 1746 K-B Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria Theresa;Huszar 1746,Unger 1266.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 03, 2022, 08:44:08 pm
A lot of very nice coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 04, 2022, 08:02:33 am
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 08, 2022, 09:16:22 am
Again  a nice group  +++

Regards

 Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 08, 2022, 01:41:35 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 31, 2022, 11:28:08 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/h1.1/77. It has a sigla of a small cross after the "E" at about 2:30.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol II/18.13.1.1/a1.7/8. It has a sigla of one small point above and to the right of the main point in the upper left quadrant.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-83,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.2/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol II/19.8.1.1/g1.3/44. It has a sigla of a small star above and to the left of the "N" in the lower right quadrant.

5. 1390-1427 n Hungarian Denar under King Sigismund of Luxemburg;Huszar 576,Unger 449,Pohl 117-33.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 31, 2022, 11:36:57 am
6. 1438-40 B-m?+ Hungarian Denar under King Albert;Huszar 592,Unger 461a,Pohl 127-1.

7. 1511 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with an VNGARI/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 811,Unger 646c,Pohl 253-4.

8. 1562 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 936,Unger 748a. The "2" in the date is slightly doubled.

9. 1581 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on December 31, 2022, 02:34:05 pm
Very nice coins, Edward. I especially like the Albert. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 31, 2022, 02:38:38 pm
Thank you,Stkp. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on January 15, 2023, 04:46:34 pm
Both coins are great Edward... +++

 Joe /Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 02, 2023, 10:37:30 am
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman with no sigla;Huszar 32,Unger 33,Rethy I-40,CAC Vol. I/11.2/0.1/1.

2. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 34,Unger 30,Rethy I-42,CAC Vol. I/11.5/a2.8/17. It has a sigla of two points just after 9:00.

3. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV with the panther facing right;Huszar 339,Unger 256b,Rethy I-360,CAC Vol. III/22.69.1.1.

4. 1270-72 S-S Slavonian Denar under King Stephen V;Unger Sz-12. It is a variation with the mint mark on the left being compressed and the one on the right taller. The "S's" on the obverse are slightly tilted.

5. Counterfeit 1442-43 Hungrain Denar during the time of King Wladislaus I with a mirrored B-n/star mint mark resembling Huszar 607,Unger 472,Pohl 145.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on March 02, 2023, 10:41:43 am
Wow, nice additions👍

Congrats 🤗

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 02, 2023, 10:45:43 am
6. 1516 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with an VNGARIE/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 811,Unger 646,Pohl 253-4.

7. 1535 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I;Huszar 935,Unger 745a. It has nice toning in the area of the Madonna.

8. 1640 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953. It has nice toning.

9. 1641 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand III;Huszar 1263,Unger 953. It has nice toning.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on March 02, 2023, 10:47:09 am
Thank you,Quadrans! :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2023, 10:41:06 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.

2.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Var. of Huszar 96,Unger 46,Rethy I-81,CAC Vol II/18.10.1.5/aih4.2/11. It has a sigla of small crosses at 3,6,9,and 12:00 and a point between 2 crescents at about 4:30.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Var. of Huszar 94,Unger38,Rethy I-78,CAC Vol. II/18.8.1.1/a3.1/17. It has a sigla of three points in a triangle surrounding the small cross at 2:00.

4. 1440/41 W-Maces Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I (billon);Huszar 598,Unger 469.epsilon,Pohl 135-24.

5. 1468-70 n-crossed hammers Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13. It has a legend variation where the "R's" look like "B's".
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 01, 2023, 10:49:22 am
6. 1500-02 K-h Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 807,Unger 641a,Pohl 242-1.

7. 1527 K-T Hungarian Denar under King John Zapolya;Huszar 881,Unger 699l,Pohl 265-14. I already have one of these but the condition of it so nice.

8. 1575 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian I;Huszar 992,Unger 766a. It has the old legend variation.

9. 1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1203,Unger 916b.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on April 08, 2023, 07:57:54 am
Nice coins Edward 👍🤗

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 08, 2023, 10:39:22 am
Thank you,Quadrans.  :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Stkp on April 22, 2023, 08:42:01 pm
Nice coins, Edward. Stkp
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on April 25, 2023, 07:18:13 pm
Thank you,Stkp.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 20, 2023, 11:25:05 am
1. 1116-31 Hungarian Denar under King Stephen II;Var. of Huszar 47,Unger 37,Rethy I-53,CAC Vol. I/12.6.2/c2.1/3. It has a sigla of one line on both sides of the center vertical cross bar near 6:00.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 97,Unger 49,Rethy I-83,CAC Vol. II/18.11.1.2/a4.2/15. It has a sigla of two points above and below the horizontal cross bar near the right end.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/a1.15/16. It has a sigla of one point above the verticla cross bar of the central cross.

4. 1205-35 Hungarian Denar under King Andreas II;Huszar 270,Unger 163,Rethy I-30,CAC Vol. III/21.85.1.1/0.1/1.

5. 1305-22 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 493,Unger 390,Pohl 50.

 
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on May 20, 2023, 11:34:32 am
6. 1333 Hungarian Parvus (1/3 Denar) under King Charles Robert;Huszar 481,Unger 379,Pohl 38.

7. 1489-90 K-P/Rosette Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus with a legend variation of VNGARI on the reverse;Huszar 722,Unger 567c,Pohl 223-2.

8. 1498-1503 K-h Hungarian Denar variation with a large closed crown on the Madonna under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 807,Unger 641a,Pohl 242-1.

9. 1630 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 10, 2023, 11:02:44 am
The previous set of coins took 5-1/2 weeks to get to me but this one only took 6 days.

1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/b1.1/45. It has a sigla of one wedge after the "E" in the upper right quadrant.

2.1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 50,Unger 43,Rethy I-59,CAC Vol. I/13.4/a1b1.1/196. It has a sigla of a wedge after the "L" at 3;30 and a point at 6:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1172-96,King Bela IV?);Huszar 181,Unger 95,Rethy I-162,CAC Vol. II/20.21.1.1/c1.3/22. It has a sigla of one line below and to the right of the small cross at 2:00.

4. 1172-96 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 334,Unger 249,Rethy I-341,CAC Vol. III/22.67.1.1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 10, 2023, 11:10:35 am
5. 1172-96 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 336,Unger 246,Rethy I-334,CAC Vol. III/22.15.1.1/e1.8/9. It has a sigla of one small circle in the left side of the double cross between the horizontal cross bars.

6. 1383 Lily Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria;Huszar 566,Unger 442h,Pohl 112-4.

7. 1552 H-P Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I with an VNGARI legend variation on the reverse;Huszar 948,Unger 745k.

8. 1633 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205, Unger 916c.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on June 11, 2023, 02:20:52 am
Great coins, Edward  🤗👍

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 11, 2023, 11:10:11 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 28, 2023, 11:27:14 am
1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 102,Unger 53,Rethy I-90,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.1/a1.7/8. It has a sigla of one point above and to the right of the larger point in the lower right quadrant.

2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 76,Unger 42,Rethy I-65,CAC Vol. II/18.1.1.1/c1.10/73. It has a sigla of one line between the small cross at 2:00 and the large point in the upper right quadrant.

3.Anonymous Hungarian Denar (Var. of Huszar 96,Unger 46,CAC Vol. II/18.10.1.4/air4.4/11. It has a sigla of a small point between 2 crescents at about 1:30.

4. 1205-35 Hungarian Denar under King Andreas II;Huszar 247,Unger 157,Rethy I-209,CAC Vol. III/21.90.1.1.

5. 1267-70 h-R Slavonian Denar under Bela IV,Crown Prince of Hungary;Unger Sz-10,Rengjeo 101-107.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on June 28, 2023, 11:34:34 am
6. 1308-22 Hungarian Obulus (1/2 Denar) ander King Charles Robert;Huszar 345,Unger 258,Lengyel (Silverbook) 24/11/1.

7. 1390-1427 Point mint mark Hungarian Denar under King Sigismund;Huszar 576,Unger 499m,Rethy II-121. The mint mark is under the double cross at 6:00.

8. 1631 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c. Both this one and the next one are duplicates but are more centrally struck.

9. 1632 K-B Hungarian Denar under King ferdinand II;Huszar 1205,Unger 916c.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 04, 2023, 02:31:08 am
Hi Edward,

Nice groups again…🤗👍

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 04, 2023, 10:25:09 am
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 22, 2023, 01:22:01 pm
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 40,Unger31,Rethy I-48,CAC Vol. I/11.10/a2.5/19. It has a sigla of a point above and below the "A" at 4:00.

2. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 37,Unger 28,Rethy I-45,CAC Vol. I/11.7/a2.7/19. It has a sigla of a point just before and inside the "V" just before 9:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/h2.1/68. It has a sigla of one cross on both sides of the main cross at 2:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.3/a2.9/22. It has a sigla of two points in the upper right quadrant near the intersection of the horizontal and vertical cross bars.

5. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 357,Unger 268,Rethy I-287,CAC Vol. III/22.50.1.1/0.1/1. It has no sigla.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on July 22, 2023, 01:25:20 pm
Great coins 🤗👍

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 22, 2023, 01:33:36 pm
6. 1270-72 S-R Slavonian Denar under King Stephen V.;Unger Sz-12,Rengjeo 128. It is a duplicate but has better details especially with the 2 Kings facing each other.

7.1521 K-A Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an VNGA legend variation on the obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673n,Pohl 255-2.

8. 1526 K-BP Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an VNGA legend variation on the obverse;Huszar 841,Unger 673p,Pohl 255-20.

9. 1699 K-B Hungarian Duarius (3 Denar=2 Duarius) under King Leopold I;Huszar 1499,Unger 1105. It is a variation with no pearl circle suroounding the coat of arms.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on July 22, 2023, 01:34:52 pm
Thank you,Quadrans> :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 25, 2023, 12:56:15 pm
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 40,Unger 31,Rethy I-48,CAC Vol. I/11.10/c1.1/41. It has a sigla of a line inside a crescent in upper right quadrant at about 2:30.

2. 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King bela II;Huszar 50,Unger 43,Rethy I-59,CAC Vol. I/13.4/a2b3.5/268. It has a sigla of one point after the "L" just after 3:00 and a cluster of 3 wedges and a point near 6:00.

3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b3.1/40. It has a sigla of 3 wedges in a row to the left of the small cross at 2:00.

4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 117a,Unger 82,Rethy I-129,CAC Vol. II/19.7.1.1/a2.12/44. It has a sigla of one point in the lower right and upper left quadrants near the intersection of the vertical and horizontal cross bars.

5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 181,Unger 95,Rethy I-162,CAC Vol. II/20.21.1.1/a1.7/8. It has a sigla of one point at the top of a line near 3:00.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 25, 2023, 01:04:11 pm
6. 1442 B-P (billon) Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 605,Unger 470f,Pohl 141-6. The last part of the reverse legend is confused.

7. 1498-1503 K-h Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II;Huszar 807,Unger 641a,Pohl 242-1.

8. 1508 K-H Hungarian Denar with an VNGARI legend variationon the reverseunder King Wladislaus II;Huszar 811,Unger 646b,Pohl 253-3.

9. 1518 K-G Hungarian Denar with an VNGAR variation on the reverse legend under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 25, 2023, 02:35:49 pm
Nice group 😉🤗👍

Joe
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on August 25, 2023, 03:06:22 pm
Thank you,Quadrans. :)
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on August 25, 2023, 03:09:25 pm
😉🤗👍
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 30, 2023, 10:41:30 am
This is a replacement set of coins for the ones mailed on 8/25 that never arrived.

1. 1439 n-S Hungarian Denar under King Albert;Huszar 592,Unger 461i,Pohl 127-8,Rethy II-135B.

2. 1440/41 W-G Hungarian Denar (billon) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 598,Unger 469,Rethy II-149A. It is a variation with the Lithuanian Rider and eagle reversed on the reverse.

3. 1444 G-n Hungarian Denar (billon) under King Wladislaus I;Huszar 609,Unger 475j,Pohl 147-7.

4. 1446 h-n Hungarian Denar under Gov. John Hunyadi;Huszar 618,Unger 485h,Pohl 175-10. The mint mark is listed in Huszar and Unger as n-n.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on December 30, 2023, 10:48:52 am
5. 1482-86 K-PV Hungarian Denar under King Matthias Corvinus;Huszar 719,Unger 565a,Pohl 221-3.

6. 1489 K-P rosette Hungarian Denar under King Mattias Corvinus;Huszar 722,Unger 569e,Pohl 223-1.

7. 1511 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus II with VNGARIE on both the obverse and reverse;Huszar 811,Unger 646c,Pohl 253-4.

8. 1599 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Rudolph;Huszar 1059,Unger 811a.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: quadrans on December 30, 2023, 11:19:41 am
Great coins  +++

Joe/Q.
Title: Re: Hungarian Denars that seem to be scarce
Post by: Edward D on January 02, 2024, 01:59:37 pm
Thank you,Quadrans! :)