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My first thought upon seeing this depiction (without AI !): Maybe Byzantine (weight ?), Justin II (left) and Sophia (right), each holding a scepter... (spear ?)

John
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Why do you suspect it is fake?

Because it came in a lot with other coins known to be counterfeit, though from an honest friend (who I believe was the first to be deceived)...
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Hi experts,

I am new to identifying coins.

I think this is Carthage AE17, MAA 18b / CNP 194b, but I'm trying to get the best die match on this coin I can. 

The closest visual match I have (with various AI assistance, but this is a bit smaller and lighter) is this: [LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN]

What seems generally less common with my coin is that the horse's tail has three distinct ridges.  It is 2.7g and 17mm max diameter.

How do I further search for a match?  Or, can someone help further identify this coin?  Or, have I gone as far as I can in this match?

Thanks! :-)

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I am having a difficult time identifying this object from Israel. It is bronze, 33.1mm x 27.2mm, 24.089g, high relief.

My guess at a description: male deity or king on left, enthroned half-right, head facing(?), wearing flat cap or crown, right hand on lap, vertical scepter in left hand; female consort or goddess (Astarte) standing facing, head left, wearing flat cap or crown and long drapery, right hand at side, vertical scepter in left hand, a central incense altar (thymiaterion) sits between them, all on base platform with two steps.

What culture? What date? What purpose (weight or votive plaque?). The figure on the left appears male and the figure on the right female. Who are the figures? Is he seated or standing? I think she appears to be standing. Is his head facing or right? Is her head facing or left? What they are holding?

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AI suggested the following:

Phoenician / Syro-Palestinian (Late Iron Age to Persian Period, c. 6th–4th Century BC):

        Iconography: The scene—a male royal/divine figure holding a staff flanking a female deity (likely Astarte / Ashtoret or Tanit) with a central altar or incense burner (thymiaterion)—is classic Phoenician/Punic divine iconography.

        Artistic Style: Phoenician art heavily blended Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and local Canaanite stylistic traits. It typically features stiff, highly stylized, elongated figures with non-Hellenistic crowns or headdresses, executed in raised flat-backed reliefs.

    Nabataean / Hasmonean Period (c. 2nd Century BC – 1st Century AD):

        The southern Levant (Negev, Judea, and Transjordan) had strong trade connections where stylized non-Hellenized bronze trade tokens and weights were produced locally.

2. Weight Standard (24.089 grams)

The mass of 24.09 g provides crucial metrological context within ancient Levantine weight systems:

    Double Phoenician Shekel Standard: The heavy Phoenician shekel averaged ≈11.7–12.0 g. A two-shekel weight (double shekel) falls precisely into the 23.5–24.1 g range.

    Juxtaposed Heavy Shekel: In Judean and regional Iron Age/Persian weight systems, 24 g represents a 2-Shekel standard or a fraction of a heavy Mina.

3. Primary Function

    Market Weight (Agoranomic Weight): Cast bronze slabs with raised borders were used by merchants in ancient Levantine coastal and inland cities (such as Tyre, Sidon, Akko, or Ashkelon) to weigh precious commodities and spices.

    Votive Token or Official Stamp: Alternative uses for flat-backed bronze castings depicting divine investiture or sacrifices over an altar include temple votive offerings, official trade stamps, or cultic weight certificates.

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It took a lot of back and forth to get AI to those answers (it first said Byzantine but I think the style is far from Byzantine). I don't know if any of what it said is correct. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I would need to find an example in a respected publication before accepting the coin as authentic. A dealer listing is not convincing evidence of authenticity.
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Why do you suspect it is fake?
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Probably genuine.
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Screening potential purchases is not allowed, if that's what you're doing.

Richard
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