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Offline Flav V

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Domitian?
« on: June 22, 2022, 11:35:46 am »
Hello,

I have two questions: i see in sale reference RIC II.1 what is it? Its nt RIC II because there is 700 numbers for Domitian, example: RIC II.1 725.

Second question is about this coin in photo. Minerva is on reverse and the legend (if domitian) should be: IMP CAES DIVI VESP F DOMITIAN AVG P M. On the obverse i read CO... above the head.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2022, 12:04:26 pm »
No one?

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2022, 01:24:32 pm »
Can't help with the coin but RIC II.I is the first part of the newly revised RIC II.
RIC II.I covers Vespasian to Domitian. RIC II.III, which has been published covers Hadrian. RIC II.II covers the rest but hasn't been published yet.
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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2022, 11:54:36 am »
Thanks PeterD. Where can i find those new RIC?

Who are the emperors using minerva? It can help find something.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2022, 12:39:54 pm »
The two that come to mind are Domitian or Claudius.  My gallery and David Atherton's gallery use the new RIC numbers for Flavians, although now they are no longer new.  Some dealers continue to use the old numbers for some reason.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2022, 01:18:16 pm »
Thanks PeterD. Where can i find those new RIC?


They are books, published by Spink of London. So you would either need to buy them or find a library that keeps them.
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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2022, 02:18:29 pm »

Online alternative is: http://numismatics.org/ocre/

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2022, 04:16:26 pm »
The problem is that i see Domitian but also CO on legend wich dont correspond.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2022, 05:22:54 pm »
DOMITIAN should be early inscribed on legend, on the left of the head. There is a roud shape above the head on the right.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2022, 05:27:43 pm »
Depends on the engaver and his spacing.  If you look at David's example I linked to above, Domitian is on the right side of the head


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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2022, 04:28:16 am »
The same reverse was also struck for Domitian as Caesar under Titus.

In that case the name is always on the right side: CAES DIVI (AVG) VESP F DOMITIAN(VS) COS VII.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2022, 12:17:35 pm »
The same reverse was also struck for Domitian as Caesar under Titus.

In that case the name is always on the right side: CAES DIVI (AVG) VESP F DOMITIAN(VS) COS VII.

Alberto

Probably this one. Thanks! What is the RIC number?

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2022, 01:06:38 pm »
It could be RIC T 311 or 343, depending on legend: CAES DIVI AVG VESP F DOMITIAN COS VII (311) or CAES DIVI VESP F DOMITIAN COS VII (343).

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2022, 03:40:16 pm »
Thanks

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2022, 05:46:55 am »
Reference.
RIC 827a; C. 1360

Obv.HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P
bare head right.

Rev. S-C
Minerva standing right brandishing javelin and holding shield.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2022, 12:40:08 pm »
I cant do a better photo but in hand it dont look as Hadrianus portraiture but Domitian

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2022, 03:34:28 am »
I still see Domitian portraiture.
It could be RIC T 311 or 343, depending on legend: CAES DIVI AVG VESP F DOMITIAN COS VII (311) or CAES DIVI VESP F DOMITIAN COS VII (343).

Alberto

Its from RIC V.1? What is the rev legend?

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2022, 05:12:30 am »
For RIC T 311 or 343 the reverse legend would be "S C" only.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2022, 06:20:22 am »
What is ''T'' for RIC T?

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2022, 06:27:05 am »
What is ''T'' for RIC T?

To find it in RIC you'd look under Titus instead of Domitian or Vespasian

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2022, 06:43:19 am »
Oh ok, now its clear.

Antoher question: where can i buy new RIC II? any pdf or book.

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 08:23:43 am »
I don't know of any existing pdf.

The book should be easy to find, there is one available on the VCoins platform too.

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2022, 09:12:51 am »
As i see on wiki there is RIC II.1 and II.3 but no II.2?

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Re: Domitian?
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2022, 10:59:40 am »
Yes, the updated part concerning Nerva and Trajan has yet to be published.

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