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Help with Lead Seal bust
« on: May 03, 2007, 10:42:54 pm »
Hi to all!
This time I need help with this romannLead seal, It shows 4 busts, & beetwen them a dolphin, I think is third century by style.
Any can recognize if this seal shows an emperor and caesars?
Thaks for helpme.
Ricardo
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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 12:23:44 pm »
Hi,

I have a small collection of 10 Roman/Byzantine lead seals including the one illustrated below. Whilst having the dolphin in the centre like yours the fourth character on mine is replaced by another dolphin by the look of it (or it could be the remnants of an off centre strike or impression of the seal obliterating the fourth character).

I don't know whether it is an imperial group or not as the character in the top left is wearing some sort of head gear that makes me doubt that type of attribution. It might be a simplified wreath.

I'll be watching this thread with interest.

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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 12:59:18 pm »
Hi Mauseus
Nice seal! Yes, the fourth character looks like a dolphin too, the another heads are same that my seal. Heads makes me think in some provintia coins. Do you have information about How this seal are used exactly?
I have two seals more. I post today pics of them.

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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 01:51:49 pm »
Hi,

I wish I knew what they were for. Most that I have seen, including this one, have a domed back and holes through for ties but what they were sealing (bags, documents...) I don't know.

I have three other lead seals posted in my gallery HERE.

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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 02:19:32 pm »
There are my other lead seals. One have a male bust (looks like licinius or similar emperor to me), & the other shows a victory holding palm.
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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2007, 11:10:52 am »
Mauseus, this is another lead seal, with four bust, anybody more have similar seals? I wanna identify this bust.. they were emperors or caesars?
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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2007, 11:11:55 am »
I forget post pic before
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Re: Help with Lead Seal bust
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2007, 12:48:17 pm »
I found this seal, with the next description:

Date: 3rd Century AD
Obverse: Four confronting busts
Reverse: Raised area for holding the seal
Size: 17.24 mm
Weight: 4.8 grams
Description: A very rare dynastic seal which I suspect is Valerian and his sons and grandson

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