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Offline Bamba123

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Coin #1
« on: December 05, 2006, 07:25:31 pm »
I still haven't mastered roman coins yet and the byzantine coins seem much harder to find good reference info on.  Where do I look, witht the romans at least there are identifiable emporers, with these just religious icons.  How do you start with these coins of the 6 I found I am going to post three and hope for some help.  thank you

this first coin is 22-24mm, the only legend I can find  :Greek_Delta: :Greek_epsilon: :Greek_Pi:TI
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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 08:06:36 pm »
Where do I look, ....How do you start with these coins

Buy Sear, "Byzantine Coins and Their Values."

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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 11:08:30 pm »
Please post larger images of this coin, it is a tetarteron and a rare one at that. It could be several different coins each rare.

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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2006, 03:00:45 am »
I am posting larger views of the coin, it will be in two messages they are both slightly over 100k and would exceed the size allowed.  Thanks for the reply!
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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 03:02:21 am »
second side and I hope the larger size isn't a breech of decorum on the forum. thanks
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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 06:27:17 am »
I wish the coin was a litle more clear but from your picture here is the answer.

Andronicus I AE tetarteron S-1988 Bust of St. George facing, beardless., wearing nimbus, tunic, cuirass and sagion and holding spear and sheild.

Rev Andronicus stg facing wearing crown, divitision and loros and holding labarum and globus surmounted with patriarchal cross in upper right field manus Dei ( hands of God)

The two key points on this coin is the image on St Georges sheild , it should be a lys and the beard of Andronicus should be split.  On your coin both are faintly visable. The partial legend of Andronicus fits and so does the symbols used for Saint George. 
My next choice would have been an Alexius 1/2 tetarteron but the coin is too large.

This coin was only minted for two months July and August 1185 before Andronicus was  overthrown and then killed.  This coin is considered to be siege coinage that was issued durring the preperation of the Norman siege of Thessalonica ( 6-24 August 1185). Also it is the first time the lye apears on byzantine coinage, it became more common in the 13th century.

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Re: Coin #1
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 10:03:39 am »
That is amazing, thanks for the info.  I have not started cleaning them yet, they seemed in fairly good shape.  I appreciate the help.
Jim
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