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The father of history
« on: November 10, 2011, 02:51:38 am »
A new acquisition to my collection, acquired from eBay where it was described as "uncertain Cilicia". It took me some effort to identify due to the worn condition and almost illegible legends, but it was clear that the reverse doesn't show any emperor or normal deity but rather a philosopher or poet. That would have been exciting enough, but I was pleasantly surprised to find out that it is none of the usual philosophers or poets but the "pater historiae", as Cicerco called him: Herodotos of Halikarnassos, the famous historian of the Persian Wars period († c. 424 BC). Fortunately, nobody else seemed to have noticed as I acquired it at a fraction of my very high maximum bid.

Antoninus Pius AE21, 138-161 AD, Halikarnassos, Caria.
Obv. ΑΥ ΤΙ ΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΑΝΤΩΝΕΙΝΟC, bare head of Antoninus Pius right.
Rev. ΗΡΟΔΟΤΟC ΑΛΙΚΑΡΝΑCCΕΩΝ, draped and bearded bust of Herodotos right.
21 mm, 5.90 g
RPC online temp. 3148 (1 specimen)

Herodotos was shown very infrequently on imperial coins from Halikarnassos (which are rare in general anyway), f.e. under Trajan, Hadrian and Gordian III. RPC online knows a single specimen (unpictured) from the Antonine period, in Berlin. I attach a scan from Karl Schefold's Bildnisse der Antiken Dichter, Redner und Denker from 1943 that shows the Berlin coin. Side by side comparison with my coin shows that it probably is the same reverse die, although the corrosion suggest differently at first glance. The attribution of my coin to Halikarnassos is further confirmed by SNG Leypold 821 (head of Athena left), a larger module coin for Pius from the same mint where the emperor's portrait quite obviously seems to be from the same hand.

Epigraphic evidence shows that Halikarnassos erected a statue to its famous citizen in early hellenistic time. Due to the iconographic consistency of Herodot's portraiture on imperial time coins, Schefold suspects that the dies were modelled after that statue.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 05:55:41 am »
That is a peach of a find-well done!
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Re: The father of history
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 06:19:13 am »
Congrats!

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 08:27:41 am »


Nice acquisition Lars.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 04:00:10 pm »
I wrote my thesis on him... I knew a coin existed with his portrait, but I never thought it would be offered on ebay. Well spotted, Lars!
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Re: The father of history
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2011, 01:57:04 pm »
Great eye Lars. This is an area of interest personally and I have tried to put together as comprehensive a list of philosophers and related personalities (astronomers, mathematicians, poets, etc.). Yet, I have never seen a Herodotus from Antoninus Pius. If you're interest please check out: http://numismaticmythology.com and hit the philosopher/poet tab.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2011, 04:22:00 pm »
Wonderful site, Mark. I'm amazed!

I have added the following coin:
AE 20, 4.31g
struck 2nd-3rd century AD under a magistrate named Geg.(?)
obv.  bearded bust of Dionysos, r.; trident before entwined by dolphin
rev. EP GEG ALAK THIWN (ALAK seems to be a die flaw or cutter error; it should be correct ANAK!)
       The poet Anakreon, wearing himation, std. r., holding with both hands lyra set
        on his knees.
Ref. BMC 59, pl. XXX, 16 (1 ex.)
Very rare, VF, olive patina
Thanks to Tacrolimus and Archivum for reading the legend correctly!

The rev. is known from Volusian too. Anakreon is one of the most famous lyric poets of ancient Greece besides Archilochos, Sappho and Alkaios.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2011, 08:50:10 pm »
Excellent. Yes indeed I had forgotten to add Anakreon but I have fixed that now. I had also failed to added a very rare coin depicting one of the fathers of ancient cosmology, Anaxagoras. With your permission I would love to add the images you've shared to the website.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 07:39:51 am »
Hi Mark,

yes I know your excellent website! You are welcome to use my pictures, should you want to. I also have an Anakreon, but in rather poor condition compared to Jochen's so it probably isn't necessary to share my picture.

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 11:25:40 am »
Mark, I don't know if you meant this coin of Anaxagoras, that was sold recently on a well known auction site. But if you didn't spot this one, here's a photo.
I was 2nd bidder, so the best I can do is the seller's picture.
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Re: The father of history
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 05:31:57 pm »
Gert,

I sure didn't...and would have loved to have known about the coin (in an attempt to make you third bidder). I was referring to the coin below that sold last year at CNG. I don't know of any other Anaxagoras types in the auction records. These are extremely rare coins.
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Re: The father of history
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 05:03:43 am »
Mark,

here is my Homer from Kyme, a type not yet illustrated on your website but nicely corresponding with the similar Smyrna issue.

Kyme, Aeolis, AE19 (5.02 g), time of Commodus.
Obv: OMHPOC, Homer seated right, resting right arm on seat and holding scroll in left hand.
Rev: ΚΥΜ/Α/ΙΩΝ within oak wreath.
RPC online 2469: 4 specimens, none illustrated, but cf. BMC Aeolis p. 115, no. 109-110

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 09:49:53 am »
Beautiful coin...and yet another one I've never seen outside of the reference books.
Thanks!
Mark

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 02:00:34 pm »
here is my own coin showing Herodot

AVTK M ANT . Γ - OPΔIANOC laurate, draped and cuirassed bust seen from behind
HPOΔOTOC AΛIKAPNACCEWN bearded and draped bust of Herodotos right
 
9th specimen known, all from same dies, 7 in museums, 1 is mine and the last was sold by CNG during auction TRITON V  [LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN]

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Re: The father of history
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 07:50:09 am »
With your permission, I'd love to add your Herodotus coin image to my website (www.ancientcoinage.org) under the others I have imaged. If willing, just let me know how you would like to be referenced.

Thanks!
Mark

 

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