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Offline Katharosteriphos

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I beg for help! pleeeease help me!!!
« on: June 09, 2003, 06:37:20 am »
Hi experts!

First of all, excuse mi bad english(But I've just received a"excellent" in latin!). I'm 16 and I'm still trying to understand your grammar ::) ::). I collect ancient coins since 7 months now, and i think it's really a fascinating thing. I've already spent more than 800 US Dollars in ancient coins. But what makes me nearly getting mad are the provincial coins. I do understand the Greek letters without any problem, but if only 3 or 4 are missing, i can hardly identify it.
so, if you could help me to identify the coin, I'm trying to post here, I'd be very happy. :)

The folk on the obverse clearly wears a radiate crown, which i haven't seen very often on a provincial coin. The only letters i think i can read are ........AN....... but I'm sure that these two letters are correct.
On the reverse, things become more complicated.
There are three look-alike apples, but I've found out at wildwinds, that these apples are referred as "agonistic urns", or "prize urns".
i can read nearly every letter on the reverse, but i don't have a clue what they mean.
i appears to be: OVAL / CALIEOY / AYCO / KA(?) (every letter is in greek, but i don't know yet how to use greek letters in the FORVM)
please help me!  
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Re:I beg for help! pleeeease help me!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2003, 12:34:35 pm »
at first guess , i know VALERIAN I had several of these reverse types


not same , but an example

ill look further if i can

http://data.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/showobj?accnum=2000.8.3

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2003, 12:50:25 pm »
I've just checked Valerian I. at wildwinds.com and at dirtyoldcoins.com. I found a few provincial coins from Anazarbus with urns on it, but none of them had a similar legend on the reverse!
Anyway, thanks for your help!
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Re:I beg for help! pleeeease help me!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2003, 02:07:18 pm »
I think your coin may very well be from Nicaea in Bithynia. Valerian seems like a good bet, too.

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2003, 02:40:45 pm »
...and exactly that is the problem for me, the only really helpful site i know is wildwinds, and in their Bithynia/Nicaea page is no coin like this, not even similar ones.
But, nevertheless, it's very kind, that you help me!

just another question..: does anyone here call him/herself an expert in so-called SC-Coins from Antioch? I've got 2 of them, but i can't identify them without help!  ::)

thx to the experts! ;)
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2003, 03:40:59 pm »
i think i have found you reverse type, its possibly a city in modern syria

im really not familiar with these , but its possible your coin is from the same region.

  compare your obverse legend, you may able to make the form of the letters out more if you have an idea what it may say.

you mention AN , if thats 100% correct your chances of correctly identifying the coin are much better

http://www.coinarchives.com/lotviewer.php?LotID=2436&AucID=6&Lot=875

for anybody else reading this

http://www.coinarchives.com/index.php

this site has a very large database, but read the notes on how to search



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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2003, 04:00:37 pm »
Thanks a lot, Germanicus!
Yes, I am 100% sure about the AN, it might even be ANO, but i wouldn't bet my computer on it.
I'm now trying to find the coin at conarchieves.com, thanks for the hint!
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2003, 02:54:01 pm »
Well, mates, i can't find it in the net anywhere.... :'( :-\ :-[
what a ....!
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2003, 03:48:48 pm »
ah, i cleaned it with some kind of olive oil, and now i can read the last word of the reverse legend: NIKAEON or similar!  :)
But i still can't find it at wildwinds or other sites, can anybody help me finding another site with coins from nicaea / bithynia ??  :-\
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2003, 03:47:37 am »
WW is about 10% (or less) complete when it comes to provincials. I am not aware of any sites. Is there anything in particular you want to find out about the coin?

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2003, 06:07:16 am »
yeah, I'd like to know, by whom it was struck!
I can clearly read the letters AN at about 2 o'clock. So it should be possible to find out! .....still I don't know how!  :-\
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