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Author Topic: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis  (Read 1417 times)

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Offline curtislclay

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KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« on: May 11, 2008, 12:41:24 am »
An unusual combination of letters, since the P has to face backwards.

I found no such ligature recorded in AMNG on any coin of Marcianopolis up to Macrinus.

This coin is from the same obv. die as H-G, p. 30, last two coins, which have the same rev. type but from a different die without ligature.
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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 01:04:26 am »
What a fine Septimius one.  I have only the Geta Dionysos, four of them, from two reverse dies.  I never have seen a rho grafted onto the upright of the kappa.  It is regularly a bow on the righthand side of the alpha.  But the guys who made the Dionysos reverse dies may not have been of the most literate.  One of the Geta dies blatantly omits the rho altogether.  As I say, I have two of them, and it seems NOT simply to be a clogged letter.  The other two have the die pair with the etnnic fully spelled out.  Pat L.

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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 07:10:57 am »
Hi!

Reading your thread I remember the same type of Severus fom Markianopolis with the ligate RK with the reversed R which I have recently acquired. It is like AMNG I/1, 556 but differs by the legend breaks and the ligate RK. On my coin the K looks more like the C of Latin MARCIANOPOLIS! Therefore in the first moment I suggested an error of the die cutter because the reversed R is very narrow too. The obv. seems to be a die match which Curtis' coin.

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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 01:56:12 pm »
Jochen,

that's the same coin as the one posted by Curtis - just a different picture.

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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 04:51:05 pm »
Yes, I see! That's funny!

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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 05:38:24 pm »
Very funny: the seller sent this coin to me, and I didn't realize it wasn't the one I had bought! 

It is Jochen's, and should be getting to him eventually: the seller instructed me to send the coin back to him rather than directly to Jochen.

My proper coin is also Septimius at Nicopolis under Gallus with Dionysos, but with different portrait style and interesting for a different aspect of the rev. legend!  I think it too will be worth showing on Forvm once it arrives.
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Re: KP ligate on a coin of Sept. Sev. at Marcianopolis
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 08:55:32 am »
Today I got the coin and now I have it in hand. Looking at the ligate PK with the retrograde P I think the die cutter has forgotten to cut the P making it MAKIANOPOLIS in error and then - mentioning his mistake - cut the half-circle of the P retrograde as a ligature with the K. This part of the P seems to be of a different style - thicker as usual- and the space to the A is very short. So the ligate P looks like it was cut afterwards.

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