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Offline Enodia

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A Stable of Horses
« on: November 30, 2014, 01:10:49 am »
okay, time to pony up!   ;D

this is the thread for horses, obviously.
here is my first offering. although the image sucks the equestrian theme seems appropriate. Taras of course.   ;)   ...
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-82071

for what it's worth, i really wanted to title this thread 'A String of Peloponnese'.., oh well.
for those not in tune with 'The Honeymooners', allow me;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcronr9aF04

so empty the paddock and let's see whatcha got. i'm sure this is one category which will draw some beautiful coins.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2014, 01:55:09 am »
A new one of mine from Pelinna:


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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2014, 02:27:02 am »
for what it's worth, i really wanted to title this thread 'A String of Peloponnese'.., oh well.

 ;D Lost in translation? ...  damned numismatic spell check...  'A String of poloponies'  ..... but here's one from the Peloponnese anyway .... and with a ancient horsey story to boot!  

Arkadia, Pheneos, ca. 300-240 BC, Æ Dichalkon    

For the story ... https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-115073  This curious story introduces the little known fact that Poseidon was originally considered to be a "farmer of horses"  the god of the horse, rather than the good of the sea. The latter apparently came later in the myth making of the Greeks.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon Nobuo Komita proposed that Poseidon was originally an aristocratic Indo-European horse-god who was then assimilated to Near Eastern aquatic deities when the basis of the Greek livelihood shifted from the land to the sea, or a god of fresh waters who was assigned a secondary role as god of the sea, where he overwhelmed the original Aegean sea deities such as Proteus and Nereus.

Now after that interesting little factoid, how long is it before we have to run with the stampede of the bulls?  :)
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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2014, 04:42:43 am »
This is easily the most beautiful horse in my stable.

Maroneia, Thrace tetrobol (or quarter stater or drachm!) 398-386 BCE, 2.89 grams, 15mm.

I have never understood why this relatively common type is not more popular. I always wanted one from when I first read through Ancient Greek Coins by Sear; when this stunning example popped up I couldn't let it gallop off! I may have let my enthusiasm go a little unbridled concerning price though, I really had to reign in expenditure after this one ran rough-shod over my bank account.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2014, 09:15:47 am »
Kyme, Aeolis, AR Tetradrachm, 165 - 140 B.C.
Obv:- Head of Amazon Kyme right, wearing taenia
Rev:- Horse walking right, oinochoe below, ΚΥΜΑΙΟΝ left, ΚΑΛΛΙΑΣ (magistrate) in ex, all in wreath;
Ref:- SNG Von Aulock 1636, SNG Cop 103
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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2014, 09:26:33 am »
Thessaly, Larissa, Silver Drachm
Obv:Youth wrestling or restraining bull, both to right, cloak and petasos flying out behind.
Rev:– LAR/ISAI, bridled horse galloping right, all in incuse square
Minted in Thessaly, Larissa from 440-400 B.C.
Reference:– SNG Oxford - (vgl. 3865). SNG Cop. -.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2014, 09:42:32 am »
Pamphylia, Aspendos. AE14 Pseudo-autonomous 
 Obv: Horse galloping right.
 Rev: AΣΠEN-ΔIΩN, Warrior standing right, holding shield and hurling javelin.
Imperial Times, 1st century AD.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2014, 12:52:44 pm »
Horses appear regularly on the coinage of Alexandreia/Troas. Here I have a coin of Severus Alexander with a grazing horse r. with a tree behind. Rev. Bellinger A341 (type 41); obv. unlisted

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2014, 01:52:11 pm »
;D Lost in translation? ...  damned numismatic spell check...  'A String of poloponies'  ..... but here's one from the Peloponnese anyway .... and with a ancient horsey story to boot!


no, this was an intentional pun.   8)

here's a team from Syracuse...
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-87593

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2014, 06:03:15 pm »
All those horses above are spectacular .
Time for the  ugly ones :)


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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2014, 07:15:15 pm »
Very nice ones Q ,

I will go around  :)

IBERIA, Belikio. Circa 100-70 BC. Æ Unit ( 22 mm ,10.39 gm). Bearded male head
right; letter behind / Horseman right, carrying lance. Villaronga page. 214,
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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2014, 07:40:58 pm »
What about the Pegasus :)

Hadrianus (117-138 A.D.), AE-Dupondius, RIC II 658, Rome, COS-III, Pegasus flying right, Scarce !

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2014, 11:57:10 am »
I've got a few ponies :D

Philip II tetradrachm

Agathokles tetradrachm

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Celtic, Rhineland.  AR quinarius, "Dancing Mannikin" type

...I'd dance too if a snake was biting me on the nose  ;D

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2014, 02:55:57 pm »
 ;D ;D  ;D
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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2014, 03:16:52 pm »
Calabria, Taras, Silver Nomos
Obv:– Naked boy-horseman prancing right, crowning horse with right, AGAQA/RCOX below.
Rev:– Taras naked seated on dolphin left, extending kantharos in right, cornucopia in left, TARAS below, race torch behind
Minted in Calabria, Taras from .c. 270 - 240 B.C.
Reference:– HN Italy 1028, Vlasto 853, SGCV I 375 var

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2014, 03:18:02 pm »
 Kindom of Paeonia, Patraos, Silver Tetradrachm
Obv:– Laureate head of Apollo right with short hair right.
Rev:– PATRAOU, armed warrior on horse prancing right, spearing fallen enemy who holds spear and shield, EM monogram in left field
Minted in Kindom of Paeonia, Patraos from . B.C. 335 - 315.
Ref:– SNG Oxford 3359 (different dies)
12.646g, 27.5mm, 90 degrees

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2014, 03:21:57 pm »
 Kyme, Aeolis, AE15, 3rd Century B.C.
Obv:– Forepart of horse right, KY upper left, EYBIOS (magistrate's name) below.
Rev:– one-handled vase, EYBI monogram left
Minted in Kyme. 3rd Century B.C.
Reference:– BMC Aeolis p. 108, 45

15 mm. 2.47 gms

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2014, 03:48:03 pm »
 Thessaly, Larissa, Silver Drachm
Obv:Youth wrestling or restraining bull, both to left.
Rev:– LARI/SAIA, bridled horse galloping right, rein trailing, all in incuse square
Minted in Thessaly, Larissa from .c. 440-400 B.C.
Ref:– SNG Cop 110. SGCV I 2111
6.022g, 20.0mm, 270 degrees

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Nice details all round. I just wish all of the horse was present but then I would never have been able to afford it.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 03:48:47 pm »
 Thessaly, Pharkadon, Silver Hemidrachm
Obv:Youth wrestling or restraining bull, both to right.
Rev:– F/AR/KAD/O, forepart of galloping horse right
Minted in Thessaly, Pharkadon from .c. 440-400 B.C.
Ref:– SGCV I 2183; BMC Thessaly p. 42, 1; SNG Cop 209
2.825g, 15.5mm, 0 degrees

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 03:49:41 pm »
 Philip II, Ar Tetradrachm, Amphipolis mint
Obv:– Laureate head of Zeus right
Rev:FILIPPOU, naked youth on horse pacing right on horseback holding palm, stalk of grain under belly, P below foreleg
Minted in Amphipolis mint.
Reference:– SNG ANS 667 - 680
Test cut on reverse.
14.114g, 24.3mm, 0o

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 03:51:56 pm »
 Philip II, Ar Tetradrachm, Amphipolis mint

Obv:– Laureate head of Zeus right
Rev:– FILIP-POU, king riding left, wearing kausia and chlamys, raising right hand in salute, erased protome of pegasos below, bow under right foreleg
Minted in Amphipolis mint. 355 - 348 BC
Reference:– Le Rider 164 (D75/R135)

There is a flaw on the reverse running through the body of the rider.

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 04:08:34 pm »
Here´s a Roman horse. Not as exquisite as the greek but well trained to kick his masters enemies were it hurts the most.  ::)

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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 04:05:40 am »
Since you actually own this horse, I'll allow it.  :)
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Re: A Stable of Horses
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2014, 01:42:12 am »
Hi ickster,

Owning a real horse is expensive. Did you ever see that episode of "The Simpsons" where Homer buys Lisa a horse?

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