Should be Cappadocia, new pics!

[henrivd]

A coin, what should be cappadicoa AR 15.47, 4 grams, BC or Roman?

[Manzikert]

Hi

Ariobarzanes III, (52-42 BC), year 11, 42 BC

Best wishes

Alan

[djmacdo]

What does the edge look like?  The surfaces look suspiciously like a good quality cast.

[henrivd]

again? i'll go and visit someone....

[henrivd]

I'll post pic tonight

[areich]

I find the pic too blurry to say much but the person who sold you that Regulus either knew exactly that it was fake (and did not 'come out of the ground') or knows nothing about ancient coins and was cheated as well. Either way, any coins that were sold together with that one should be looked at closely.

[henrivd]

Areich, i think it's number 2, he doesnt know a thing and relies on his relations (bought them from a dealer in Spain).

I was, as a collector, very happy with Regulus, but when i got the shipment i found the edge suspicious thats why i posted it.

I bought 4 coins in total.


i bougt an augustus (its in ID-help under name Founder coin, "Casarus"), which, i think is ok.
i bought a silvered follis of Diocletionus, which is ok too

I can post pics, but im pretty sure its ok.


Seems it's only the silver ones (the more pricy ones) that appear to be fake / suspicious.


Teaches me not to buy only on picture.

By the way, it's no problem to get a refund of the seller, that is why i think it is 'not knowing' in stead of deliberatly selling a bad coin.

 I'll post the edge on the Cappadocian tonight, if it is a cast, it seems to be a very good one indeed, thats why i put it in ID and not in fakes.

Kind regards,
Henri

[henrivd]

Edge seems ok and sharp made higher qualitypics, hope this is better

Tell me?

[henrivd]

There are no "pearls" on the surface, its smooth, a bit poreus perhaps, but i dont think its a cast

[djmacdo]

The edge is unlike a genuine Cappadocian drachm and the weight is not good.

[henrivd]

Please show me pic of edge of genuine Ariobarzanes III, by the way, weight is 3.5, used a proper weigher (only had postweigher)

[Manzikert]

Hi

I'm afraid that I'd have to agree that it looks even more suspicious in the new photographs. I see a lot of pitting, especially on the obverse and the colour remains too 'brassy': I had put it down to colour balance in the first pictures but if it really looks like that it is wrong.

The weight is OK: my example (below) is 3.54 gm, but as djmacdo says the edge is pretty strange as well (I think I see signs of filing on the top edge image). I'd return it.

Best wishes

Alan

[henrivd]

Hi all, sorry the brassy is because of backlight, i have a Konigs digital microscope but it sucks in colour:)

The edge had no filling, just irregularities.

Ik consider this one as ok. But thnx for all replies and the determination!

Kind regards
Henri

[djmacdo]

In the first post, you had the weight as 4, but now it is 3.5.  Which is correct?  To me this coins appears to be of the same character as the Regulus denarius.

[areich]

It's not as easy as "seam=fake, no seam=genuine". If you look at a coin's edge, you should know what the edge of a coin of that particular type is supposed to look like. This differs a lot in antiquity, which, after all, spans a huge area and several centuries.