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Offline Stefan O

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Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« on: December 08, 2022, 03:49:55 am »
Hello everyone!
Please help me to identify this coin.
Thank you.

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2022, 04:27:51 am »

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2022, 05:24:31 am »
thank you!

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2022, 08:13:11 am »
If genuine it would likely be a contemporary copy - a cast of a Sestertius.  these were common at Carnuntum and likely in some other places.

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2022, 01:48:55 pm »
I also looks like a cast to me--and not necessarily ancient.

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2022, 07:24:53 pm »
I also looks like a cast to me--and not necessarily ancient.
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why would someone cast this coin in the modern era?

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2022, 07:28:07 am »
Fraud is always a possibility with ancient coins.  Do not take my word for it--I am by nature very suspicious.  See what opinion others have.

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2022, 07:42:01 am »
The problem is that, as a cast and with no real patina left, it is hard to tell if it is an overly-cleaned ancient cast or a modern cast.

Personally I think it is ancient.

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2022, 07:02:32 pm »
Fraud is always a possibility with ancient coins.  Do not take my word for it--I am by nature very suspicious.  See what opinion others have.

No I understand your skepticism.. I was just wondering why someone would do this coin versus ones that are more rarer or more expensive...

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2022, 07:30:51 am »
Even the most common fourth century small bronzes are faked.  There seems to be nothing that is not the subject of the make-a-profit fakers!  Some of you coin in the photo appears almost silvery--or lead like.  If that on the coin or an element of the photograph?

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Re: Unknown bronze coin diameter 30mm/ thickness 3mm/ weight 10g
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2022, 10:33:31 am »
Quote from: Tacitus on December 15, 2022, 07:02:32 pm
Fraud is always a possibility with ancient coins.  Do not take my word for it--I am by nature very suspicious.  See what opinion others have.

No I understand your skepticism.. I was just wondering why someone would do this coin versus ones that are more rarer or more expensive...

A potential forger would need to have a rare or expensive coin in hand if he wanted make a cast of it, which he would have to buy or borrow.
 Also, a cast of a rare coin is more likely to be scrutinised whereas multiple copies of common coins could circulate un-detected.
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