Unlisted Crispus Lyons VIRTVS EXERCIT

[Adrianus]

A Crispus VIRTVS EXERCIT issue unknown to Bastien with a martial bust left:
Weight is 3.02g.
Regards,
Adrianus

[Vincent]

Cool coin and nice "official" style. I do not own a copy of Bastien, so have no idea where it fits. How about RIC? What RIC number should it be?
Perhaps the "Not in RIC" editor, Lech, can help if he visits.
Thanks for the pic and amazes me on the variety of LRBC still yet discovered

[quadrans]

If it is official than very interesting...

 Regards
 Q.

[Adrianus]

Sorry, should have explained further. Bastien's multi-volume work is the best reference for Lyons in this period, including a lot of coins missing from RIC. This coin isn't in RIC either.
Certainly official as well :-)

Regards,

Adrianus

[leetoone]

It would be after RIC VII (Lyons) 104.

[lrbguy]

Sorry, should have explained further. Bastien's multi-volume work is the best reference for Lyons in this period, including a lot of coins missing from RIC. This coin isn't in RIC either.
Certainly official as well :-)

Regards,

Adrianus

No offense intended, Adrianus, but is there any chance you could be a little less vague about the reference, please? 
"Bastien's multi-volume work... " doesn't help me much more than simply referring to his name. 

Coin weekly wrote: "Pierre Bastien is regarded one of the profoundest experts on Late Roman numismatics and has written hundreds of papers on that field."  Pierre Bastien is also the name of a French composer and musicologist.  At least a title, so I can do a reasonable search in a short amount of time.


Author, title, volume, page, year of publication - knowing these helps when you want to track something down, so as much of all that as one has available would give a better reference.

[curtislclay]

Here is the basic information, taken from CNG's site, Bibliography, Roman Coins, Lyon:

P. Bastien, et al. Le monnayage de l’atelier de Lyon. 8 Vols. Paris. 1972-.

[Victor C]

Author, title, volume, page, year of publication - knowing these helps when you want to track something down, so as much of all that as one has available would give a better reference.

You could have clicked on the word Bastien in his post (or yours, or mine) which will take you to a page with a list of the publications


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Bastien%20XIII

[lrbguy]

Thank you Curtis, that helps.


I had already tried your suggestion, Victor, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.  Here is what I got:

Bastien

Bastien, P.  Le Monnayage de Bronze de Postume.  (Wetteren, 1967).

Also see:
Bastien VII
Bastien IX
Bastien XI
Bastien XIII
Bastien XIV
Bastien XVI
Bastien AMGM
Bastien Coins
Bastien Folles
Bastien Imitations
Bastien Lyon
Bastien MM
Bastien Postume
Mélanges Bastien


Nothing rang any bells since I did not already know what I was after.  The Roman numeral entries, presumably to the Postumus series, were entirely opaque unless I was willing to run each one down and try to figure it out. 

The reader should not be challenged in that way in a good reference. 

[Victor C]

 The Roman numeral entries, presumably to the Postumus series, were entirely opaque unless I was willing to run each one down and try to figure it out.  

No, there is no Postumus series, just the one book. The titles with Roman numbers are similar to RIC, in that people usually only say Bastien or more specifically Bastien XIII  etc. If you are talking about a Crispus coin and reference Bastien, it must be Numismatique Romaine XIII (as only one volume of Bastien, like RIC, deals with Crispus) which is titled  Le monnayage de l'atelier de Lyon. De la réouverture de l'atelier en 318 à la mort de Constantin (318-337)-- or Bastien XIII. There are however, two Bastien supplements, which if you were talking about, would be referenced as Bastien supplement I or II

[Joe Sermarini]

I have updated NumisWiki.  Try clicking Bastien now.

[curtislclay]

There are some mistakes in the translations of the titles that I wanted to correct, in particular l'atelier de Lyon means the mint of Lyon, not the workshop of Lyon.

However the software would only let me correct the first two titles. What am I doing wrong?

[Joe Sermarini]

However the software would only let me correct the first two titles. What am I doing wrong?

I don't know, but I will change workshop to mint.

[lrbguy]

Thanks, guys.  That is a BIG help.