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The Members' Gallery => Topic started by: Tracy Aiello on April 20, 2019, 02:41:38 pm
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Hello,
I’ve had a gallery up since March and have been adding coins and write-ups to it at a somewhat sluggish pace. My most recent addition is a CONCORDIAE MILITVM type for Severina, Augusta and wife of Aurelian.
I thought that I’d finally “announce” my gallery here. Any and all comments and constructive criticisms are welcome. I hope that you enjoy what I have.
Thanks.
Tracy
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Looks good +++
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Nice start
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Sweet start, Tracy => I "love" the Sextus Pompey
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=> keep-up the awesome work!
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The Vabalathus series is also great +++
Q.
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Thank you everyone for the compliments. I appreciate them. Yes, that Sextus Pompey coin really is a beauty, especially in hand.
I realize that I forgot to actually post the link to my gallery, although it is in my signature. So, here's the link: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=46197
Tracy
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The Vabalathus series is also great +++
Q.
Quadrans, thank you for the compliment on my "Whitman Folder" of Vabalathus and Aurelian at Antioch. I find that series interesting and appealing given the historical context and the war that was brewing between Rome and Queen Zenobia.
All the best,
Tracy
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Very nice! I especially like the Vabalathus ones.
Harry
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Very nice! I especially like the Vabalathus ones.
Harry
Thank you Harry, I appreciate it.
Tracy
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At the rate that I’m putting coins up this will take forever.
Nonetheless, I’ve added a wonderful companion to my beautiful Crawford 511/4, Sextus Pompey Pharos and Scylla: a Crawford 511/2, Sextus Pompey Neptune and Naval Trophy. In hand the portrait of Neptune is amazing; the photo actually doesn’t do it justice. As an added bonus, the provenance of the coin is, well, impressive. I was lucky to pick this coin up.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6928&pos=0
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6928&pos=1
I hope that you enjoy this addition.
Tracy
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Sweet!! ... wow Tracy, congrats on adding that wonderful Sextus Pompey (it's an absolute winner!)
Oh, and the cool ol' catalog is definitely icing on the cake! (congrats again)
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Wow, now you have "two" beautiful Sextus Pompey examples (your collection is starting to rock)
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Sweet!! ... wow Tracy, congrats on adding that wonderful Sextus Pompey (it's an absolute winner!)
Oh, and the cool ol' catalog is definitely icing on the cake! (congrats again)
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Wow, now you have "two" beautiful Sextus Pompey examples (your collection is starting to rock)
Steve P,
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Tracy
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Hoops, great coins...
Q.
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Since one cannot live on Sextus Pompey, Vabalathus and Aurelian, or Severina alone I’ve just added a Larissian bull wrestling coin. I hope that you enjoy it.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7014&pos=0
Tracy
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Great photography technique on your Sextus Pompey and Larissa coins, good luck with your evolving gallery.
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Sweeeet addition ... yup, ya gotta love the animal coins!
=> congrats on adding another total winner! (you've got a killer coin-eye ... keep-up the awesome work)
Cheers
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Great photography technique on your Sextus Pompey and Larissa coins, good luck with your evolving gallery.
Thank you Arados. I wish that I could take credit for the photography, but I can't. The dealer's husband does all of her photography and she allowed me to use the photo. Thankfully, because I agree that it is a great photo.
Tracy
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Sweeeet addition ... yup, ya gotta love the animal coins!
=> congrats on adding another total winner! (you've got a killer coin-eye ... keep-up the awesome work)
Cheers
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Thank you Steve P. I am lucky that these beautiful coins keep coming my way. It is certainly a good feeling to be able to snatch one up.
Tracy
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Fantastic piece!
Harry
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Hello Everyone,
Here is another coin from Larissa, a facing head drachm of the nymph herself:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0
I hope that you enjoy it.
Tracy
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Great coin Tracy. It was on my watch list! Glad you got it.
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Great coin Tracy. It was on my watch list! Glad you got it.
Thank you Jay GT4, I appreciate it.
At first I was hesitant to purchase the coin because of the scratch on the obverse, but it is far less intrusive with the coin in hand than it might appear on an enlarged photo. Besides, if the coin were “perfect” I would never be able to afford it. Thus, this coin taught me a valuable lesson about acquisition.
Tracy
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This will more than likely be my last installment of the Crawford 511s in my gallery. I have just added a Crawford 511/3 with a magnificent obverse portrait of Pompey the Great. I don’t think that I’ll be getting my hands on a Crawford 511/1 anytime soon. I’ve also included the Dr. Jacob Hirsch auction catalogue from 1913, illustrating the coin’s pedigree.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=46197&pos=0
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6928&pos=5
I hope that you enjoy this coin as much as I enjoyed acquiring and researching it.
Tracy
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A lovely coin with a wonderful pedigree. Congratulations!
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Carausius,
Thank you very much.
Tracy
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Hi, Tracy,
Great coin with a great pedigree... ;)
Congratulation +++
Q.
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Quadrans,
Thank you again, as always.
Tracy
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Yet another facing head drachm from Larissa: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7014&pos=2
Tracy
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I have to get one of these someday. Joe has a few in the shop.
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Jay GT4,
In the beginning I had no intention of picking up any Larssian coins, but I found myself drawn to the type again and again. I also like the fact that they are heavy and chunky in hand and have a high relief, especially on the obverse. Of course those high spots are often worn down, but the relief is generally there nonetheless. Warning: once you pick one up you will want more.
Tracy
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Sweet new horse addition => man, I love these cool Larissa examples (congrats)
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Steve P,
Thanks. I have to admit that these Larissian types are kind of addictive.
Tracy
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...and my last of the Larissian facing head types. This one is nice and chunky and looks and feels great in hand.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7014&pos=3
Tracy
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Nice addition,
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Q.
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Ya gotta love it!! ...
:captiveright::Greek_Alpha: :reversedR: :Greek_Xi_2: :reversedS: :reversedS: :Greek_Alpha: :reversedR: :Greek_Theta_3: :Csquare: :Greek_Kappa: :reversedS:
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Steve P,
I agree that Larissa rocks. So, since I just can’t stay off of the horses here is my final one. I no longer have any more Larissian drachms to post in my gallery.
I hope that you enjoy this one.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7014&pos=4
Tracy
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Great addition, ;) +++
Q.
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Hello Everyone,
It’s been a while since I last posted about my gallery, but that’s because I had no recent additions. However, within the past few weeks I acquired another lovely coin from the Larissian facing head drachm series. This is a type that I’ve desired for quite a while: one with a reverse die signature. It is an exquisite coin, and gorgeous in hand, especially the obverse. Please enjoy.
The coin: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=46197&pos=1
The auction catalogue: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=46197&pos=0
Tracy
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...and my last Larissian coin for a while. A trihemiobol. I find the detail remarkable, especially on the reverse, for such a small coin.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=46197&pos=0
Tracy
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I don't think your links are correct. The trihemiobol appears in both posts, the first one where the catalog should be.
Remember to copy the link from description and not the browser.
But the trihemiobol is pretty cool, and I believe I have that catalog.
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Peter,
Thank you for the information on my links. When I get to a PC, rather than my phone, I will correct the links.
Tracy
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I think that I’ve successfully corrected the links. Thanks again to Peter (Enodia) for explaining the correct way to link to a coin in my gallery. I was indeed copying and pasting from the browser. So,...
Facing head drachm signed by AI: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-158855
Auction catalogue for the drachm: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-158857
Trihemiobol: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-158860
Tracy
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Hi,
Nice group of coins, +++
Q.
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Sweet, sweet, sweet Larissa!!
Man, I love all of your cool new Larissa additions ... keep that awesome effort going!
Cheers
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Quadrans and Steve P: thank you both!
Tracy
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Over the last day or so I’ve added two new albums to my gallery (link as part of my signature): Aurelian and the Palmyrene Empire and Random Aurelians, currently with one and two coins respectively. I hope to add more random Aurelians in the near future. I hope that you enjoy.
Tracy
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Nice additions Tracy. Look forward to seeing more
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I agree, nice addition +++
Joe/Q.
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Aurelian is just so Third Century ;).
Capital idea, as a focal point. Aurelian seems to have a sizable issuance in his name and that of the empress, Severina. Other names to look out for, on the Palmyrene front: Vabalathus and Zenobia. Vabalathus was son of Odenathus and Zenobia of Palmyra. Zenobia assumed the purple upon Odenathus' (rather suspicious) death, with Vabalathus as nominal king. One of the issues pairing Vabalathus with Aurelian would fit in nicely here. :) Zenobia is quite the rarity. :-\
Even as a French speaker, I still find it tiring to read some of the numismatic works, such as RPC 7.1 (M. Spoerri Butcher). It's the wading through a multitude of languages (French, Latin, Greek...). Other writers are not a problem.
Learning 'numismatic' French (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Numismatic%20French) will at least help you with some other works. I'm not interested in learning Bulgarian, so am hunting for Varbanov's English translation of his Greek Imperial Coins series.
Anaximander
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nice winner, with great provenance
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I hadn’t seen your gallery before. Great coins—you have a good eye!
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Thank you everyone for the kind words. I appreciate them.
Tracy
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Aurelian is just so Third Century ;).
Capital idea, as a focal point. Aurelian seems to have a sizable issuance in his name and that of the empress, Severina. Other names to look out for, on the Palmyrene front: Vabalathus and Zenobia. Vabalathus was son of Odenathus and Zenobia of Palmyra. Zenobia assumed the purple upon Odenathus' (rather suspicious) death, with Vabalathus as nominal king. One of the issues pairing Vabalathus with Aurelian would fit in nicely here. :) Zenobia is quite the rarity. :-\
Even as a French speaker, I still find it tiring to read some of the numismatic works, such as RPC 7.1 (M. Spoerri Butcher). It's the wading through a multitude of languages (French, Latin, Greek...). Other writers are not a problem.
Learning 'numismatic' French (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Numismatic%20French) will at least help you with some other works. I'm not interested in learning Bulgarian, so am hunting for Varbanov's English translation of his Greek Imperial Coins series.
Anaximander
Anaximander,
There is something about Aurelian's short reign that has drawn me to him historically so I thought that it would bring some sort of discipline to my collecting focus. I would probably bankrupt myself if I simply purchased whatever I found artistically beautiful. Of course I still do plenty of that; witness my Larissian coins.
Somewhere on my list of "to dos" is to search out the sole coinage of Vabalathus. Zenobia's coinage would be a wonderful addition but I fear that the price would be out of my league.
By the way, I really like your gallery and so I recommended it for Gallery of the Year.
Tracy
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...and now for something completely different (with apologies to Monty Python): a coin from the Sasanian empire. Khusro II to be exact: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-159630
My strong interest in the Sasanian empire has lead me, naturally, to its interesting and challenging coinage. I hope that you enjoy.
Tracy
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Excellent addition, Tracy. Your Khusru II is in wonderful condition (sorry, technical term). You have done homework on the type. Myself, I'm lacking in references, not having invested much effort for the lone example of Sasanian coinage in my collection. Incidentally, it's a Khusru I. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155750 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155750)
Congratulations on achieving the rank of Consul. Hail Tracy!
The lowly Anaximander, Praetorian.
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Thank you Anaximander. I appreciate it. I am lucky in that I have full access to the University of Wisconsin – Madison library system. The graduate library contains many numismatic references, most of which circulate. I have access to Göbl's Sasanian Numismatics as well as all of the SNS volumes published to date. In addition, when I am on the library's WiFi I have full access to JSTOR. All of this makes it easy to consult and collect reference books and articles.
Tracy
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Yes, I agree with Anaximander, and Tracy you are lucky to have a nice resource... ;)
Joe/Q.
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Nice Khusru II... +++
Joe
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Thank you Anaximander. I appreciate it. I am lucky in that I have full access to the University of Wisconsin – Madison library system. The graduate library contains many numismatic references, most of which circulate. I have access to Göbl's Sasanian Numismatics as well as all of the SNS volumes published to date. In addition, when I am on the library's WiFi I have full access to JSTOR. All of this makes it easy to consult and collect reference books and articles.
Tracy
Small world. I live in Madison as well. :)
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The research and descriptions of the coins that you post are a pleasure to read. Keep them coming! Stkp
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Mark,
It is indeed a small world. It's funny that oftentimes one may interact on a discussion board with others without knowing that they might be neighbors.
Tracy
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The research and descriptions of the coins that you post are a pleasure to read. Keep them coming! Stkp
Thanks Stkp. I appreciate it. Sometimes I think that I go overboard with the research and descriptions but I guess that kind of thing is just in my nature.
Tracy
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Greetings,
I’ve created another gallery. This one for what I call “random coins”, i.e. coins that have caught my eye and was then lucky enough to purchase. Currently the gallery contains two coins, a good ol’ Athenian tetradrachm (old style) and a diobol from Mytilene, Lesbos. Both coins are gorgeous and I’m glad to have them. Both coins were purchased from Joe, right here at Forvm. As always from Joe: beautiful coins; amazing value; attribution and scholarship second to none.
The new gallery: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7202
Tracy
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Nice randoms!
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Well, it’s been awhile since the last time that I added a coin to my gallery. The write-up for this one took me longer than it should have, but I went down a research rabbit hole that wasn’t even about coinage per se (which in turn caused me to alter the write-up of my other Khusro II gallery postings). Nonetheless I’m glad to have added a silver drachm of Khusro II from regnal year 2, a year during which some major changes to his coinage--and his crown--were implemented. I hope that you enjoy.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-160758
Tracy
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Nice piece... +++
Joe/Q.
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A nice coin and, as always, well researched. I find Sassanian coinage to be incredibly challenging. Stkp
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Joe and Stkp,
Thank you much. Sometimes I think that I enjoy the research more than the coin. I do tend to go overboard with it. Well, I guess that "overboard " can be a relative term. ;D
Tracy
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The research and attribution is always fun, The important thing is that you enjoy the hobby. Stkp
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The research and attribution is always fun, The important thing is that you enjoy the hobby. Stkp
+1 😀👍
Joe
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I absolutely agree, Stkp and Joe. The hobby is definitely still fun and enjoyable.
Tracy
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Sweet Sasanian addition, Tracy (congrats!)
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Sweet Sasanian addition, Tracy (congrats!)
:Greek_Stigma: :Greek_Lambda: :Greek_Stigma: :Greek_Stigma: :Greek_Upsilon:
Thank you Steve!
Tracy
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Greetings,
I hope that everyone is staying safe in these very troubling times.
I have finally gotten off of my butt and written up this wonderful coin, purchased right here from Joe at Forum. This coin is a “random” for me, but since I have a soft spot for my favorite beast, Skylla, when this coin was listed as a “recent addition” I snatched it up.
Enjoy.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-161996
Tracy
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Great coin! I love these types from Southern Italy
Here's mine
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-119935
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Jay,
That is a great coin.
Tracy
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...and one more for the day. A wonderful bull wrestling drachm from one of my favorite places, Larissa.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-161998
Tracy
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Nice one!
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Both of your's coins are great... +++
Joe
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Thank you Joe and Mark. I've two more coming, once I get them written up: a wonderful little Sicilian litra (from Forum) and another bull wrestling drachm.
Tracy
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Great coin! I love these types from Southern Italy
Here's mine
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-119935
Quite right, Jay. Both you and Tracy cast my example into the shade...
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155926 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155926)
You've clearly looked deep into some arcane references. Can you clarify your reference to McGill?
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I finally posted the bull wrestling drachm, after moving the picture from my "random coins" album to my "Larissa" album. What attracted me to this coin was the heavy incuse square on the reverse, the fact that the reverse legend is partially retrograde, and the wonderful toning on the coin.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-162524
Tracy
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Greetings Coin Lovers,
I have finally added to my collection a type that I have eyed up for quite a while: a Cista Mystica from Pergamon. Of all the things about this wonderful coin that I like the most, it is the eagle on the fulmen with a star above its head. Although in the photo it looks as if the eagle’s head is off of the flan, trust me it is not; it is there in all of its glory.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-162947
Tracy
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Wow, both are great +++
Joe
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Greetings,
I have finally be able to add a wonderful Q. Nasidius to my Sextus Pompey album. The coin has great detail (the photo, I believe, was lightened in order to highlight the detail. In hand the coin has a wonderful toning to it) and a "first" for my collection: a banker's mark. I hope that you enjoy.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-163507
Tracy
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Wow, Great album, congratulation... +++
Joe
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Great looks, with interesting reverse +++
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Joe and Eric,
Thank you very much. The compliments are appreciated.
Tracy
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Greetings,
I have had the opportunity to add two wonderful Larissian obols to my collection. I find myself attracted more and more to these smaller denominations. When I have them in hand I wonder what skill, steady hands, and excellent eyesight it must have taken to cut the dies.
I hope that you enjoy.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-163680
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-163681
Tracy
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Both nice additions, Tracy 👍😉😀
Joe
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Greetings,
It has been a few weeks since I added a coin to my gallery. I recently purchased another little gem for my Larissian gallery. A beautiful bull hoof/horse head hemiobol.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-164083
I hope that everyone is staying safe.
Tracy
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Great piece... +++
Joe
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Hello Everyone,
It has been over six months since I last uploaded a coin to my gallery. I just added an obol of a horse prancing left on the obv. and Larissa playing with her ball on the rev. My quest for small denomination representations of Larissa engaged in ordinary activities continues.
I hope that you enjoy. Please stay safe.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-168015
Tracy
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I like themes. I'm always impressed when someone manages to stick with it. Way back when, my first theme was the Roman Severan Dynasty, which I interpret to be one coin, preferably a denarius, of each key person. I hope you develop your theme, which is reasonably narrow ("Larissa engaged in ordinary activities" or, simply put, 'Nymph Larissa').
I've only just now seen a post by Enodia pointing out in Collecting Themes (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=123644.0) that there are threads just for such themes. Check it out; it's the post with no replies. :'( It'd be lovely to start a theme on Larissa and have other contributors.
There's also the |Coin Collecting Theme Galleries| (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/), which include 'Ancient Ladies.' Such a broad topic, though. I'm interested in countermarks (my stater of Olympia has three), but I cannot yet effectively search the vast Countermarks Theme Gallery, but I could see a smaller, focused discussion thread on, say, Countermarks of the Peloponessos.
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Hello Anaximander,
When I first got into collecting I naively thought “hmmmm, my theme will be captives.” I found that theme in Joe’s shop and quickly realized that I would need to narrow that theme down, significantly. For Larissian coins I was originally attracted to the facing head drachms (who isn’t?) but came to really enjoy the smaller denominations with their depictions of Larissa, as well as bulls. I have some other themes, some that are stalled (Aurelian and the Palmyrene empire) and some that are slowly growing (the coinage of Khusro II that illustrate iconographic shifts). When I get the itch to buy but can’t find something in my theme de jour, I just come up with another theme. ;D
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Greetings,
I have just added another small denomination coin to my Larissa gallery. Another obol, another bull, another wrestler, another bridled horse’s head. This one, however, presents a different perspective than the coins from Larissa of which most people think when they think of the bull wrestling type. This obol is a frontal perspective. Heck, our hero might not even be wrestling the bull; he might be rewarding him. I would like to quote from BCD Thessaly II, the collector’s note to lot 353.3 (a reference for my coin), p. 138: “...the attitude of the hero towards the bull remains friendly. Perhaps, after the contests were over, the bull riders would reward their bulls with a little something, the same way today riders give a small treat to their horses after they have performed well in a competition.”
I hope that you enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-168221
Stay safe.
Tracy
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Great little coin. Congrats.
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It’s a very professional and well-organised gallery. I’ve just got the one ancient coin at present. It will be quite a while before I build a sizeable collection of my own.
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Great coin, Tracy, and nice addition 👍
All the best
Joe
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Thank you Jay, Roger, and Joe for your kind words.
Tracy
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Greetings,
This is the last coin in my inventory to upload and it fits into my random coins gallery. It’s a triobol from Argos, Argolis. Who couldn’t love what’s on this coin? It has the forepart of a wolf, a large A in a nice incuse square, some Greek letters, a badass eagle standing on a harpa…. Well, at least I love what’s on the coin, in addition to it’s amazing condition. It really is gorgeous in hand.
If you check it out in my gallery one obvious question would be “why didn’t he list what is probably the standard modern reference for this coin, BCD Peloponnesos (or would that be Peloponnesos II?), instead of those much older references?” The answer to that question is simple: I only list a reference if I have access to it and can verify the attribution.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-168255
Take care.
Tracy
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Great coin and details... ;) :) +++
Joe/Q.
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If you check it out in my gallery one obvious question would be “why didn’t he list what is probably the standard modern reference for this coin, BCD Peloponnesos (or would that be Peloponnesos II?), instead of those much older references?” The answer to that question is simple: I only list a reference if I have access to it and can verify the attribution.
Tracy
Your discipline in references -and your research- are laudable. It throws down the gauntlet to those of us, myself included, who have simply parroted what our dealers told us, checking some references when convenient, but not others.
I just did a recon of the BCD references, to see what's available, and I was surprised to see how many are available, one way or another. I was also surprised to see that I had several of them without knowing it ::). HERE (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=15065.msg749149#msg749149) is my take on the availability of BCD references. I have BCD Peloponnessos II (CNG 81/2), in hardcopy, and am happy to provide any reference from it that you'd like.
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Thank you for your kind words, Anaximander. In addition, thank you for the write-up of BCD online sources. I’ve copied and pasted your post for future use (with attribution to you in my document). Hell, that future use was about five minutes after I pasted your post. I used the link provided by you to LHS Auction 96 in order to find and attribute my Argolis wolf forepart triobol. Now I can add that reference to the write-up in my Forum gallery.
I will keep your kind offer in mind for Peloponnesos II, should I need someone to peak in there for me. The same offer holds for you if there is something that you should need, although I don’t have a current list of my hard copy references published and currently as a community member (i.e. neither faculty, staff, nor student) due to Covid I am not allowed to access the University of Wisconsin - Madison Memorial Library Greek and Latin reference room, so I cannot get to SNG Copenhagen, SNG Von Aulock, etc.
Take care!
Tracy
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Thanks to Anaximander's work I was able to access BCD Peloponnesos via acsearch.info, verify the attribution of my coin, and therefore add the reference to the write-up in my gallery. I need to think more about where to find online sources.
Tracy
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Greetings,
It’s been about a month since my last gallery upload. Here’s another Larissian obol of the bull wrestling type. The orientation on the obverse and the legend on the reverse are different from my other such obol. Also different is the addition of the lotus flower on the obverse, above the bull’s head.
Thanks for reading, and I hope that you enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-169253
Tracy
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Greetings again. This little gem just arrived in the mail. Another Larissain obol, another prancing horse, another depiction of Larissa. This one is from the BCD collection, specifically BCD Thessaly II no. 364.1.
Obviously BCD Thessaly II is the reference, and HGC 4 references BCD Thessaly II. However, I can find no reference to this coin in BMC Thessaly, Hunterian, Traité, Weber, McClean, Imhoof-Blummer Nymphen, Herrmann, or Boston MFA. I currently don’t have access to SNG COP and don’t have access to SNG ANS. Unpublished prior to BCD Thessaly II? If anyone knows of a reference for this coin other than the two cited above, then I would be appreciative to hear of it. Thank you in advance.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-169298
Tracy
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Hello again. It’s been quite a long while since I added a coin to my “Whitman Folder” of Aurelian and Vabalathus at Antioch (or is that Vabalathus and Aurelian?) but I have finally obtained what to me is an example of the inverse Z mint mark (Estiot), as opposed to the squared S (Bland). I am curious to know if any of you have an opinion regarding how to view this mint mark.
Thank you, and take care.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-169432
Tracy
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Nice coin, Tracy 🤗👍
Joe
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Greetings,
It’s been about two months since I’ve added a coin to my gallery. I was excited to obtain this wonderful Athenian obol, a miniature masterpiece in hand. Given that this is my third Athena/Owl example (I also have a tetradrachm and a triobol) I decided that I might as well start going down the numismatic reference rabbit hole. I was able to obtain both Starr and Svoronos Athens. I must admit that I was unfamiliar with the format of Svoronos Athens so when it arrived and I opened it up I was quickly overwhelmed. There are over 4,500 coins pictured in 115 plates. There is no descriptive text for the coins depicted, but there are extensive indices. There will definitely be a learning curve with this reference work.
Enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=170554 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=170554)
Tracy
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+++ Such a nice Athenian obol. Describing it as “rough” doesn’t do it justice (shame on BMC!).
I like to see your numismatic reference collection grow, too. I have neither of those two references, myself, and it’s great to know someone who does. If you need any translation from the French, I’m sure I can help.
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Anaximander,
Thank you, and I agree with your judgement about BMC’s judgement.
Thanks as always for the generous offer of a translation. Fortunately for me I was able to obtain the 1975 Ares Publishers version, which according to the publisher is a new edition in English with new indices in English and an added plate.
If you ever need something out of Starr or Svoronos Athens, then just let me know.
Sometimes I think that I have a numismatic reference problem more than a coin problem. Either is a good problem to have.
Be well.
Tracy
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Greetings,
I’ve just added another fractional to my collection of Larissian coins. Another prancing horse and Larissa with a wreath and ball: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=170879
I’m thinking of advertising a new motto for my gallery, since I’ve purchased nothing but small denominations for a while now: Fractionals Forever!
Thanks for reading/looking.
Tracy
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I love your coin taste ... nice horse addition
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The fractions are a real niche area and you seem to be embracing it, which is wonderful. I look forward to more additions!
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Greetings Coin Friends,
It’s been about three months since I last uploaded a coin to my gallery. I have two Sasanian drachms in the hopper, but they await more comprehensive research and write-up as I intend them to be part of a larger project related to Khusro II’s iconographic changes.
In the meantime, please enjoy another Larissian fractional. This is a trihemiobol of a type that up until now was not part of my collection: Larissa ¾ facing left on the obverse with a horse and rider on the reverse. My research indicates that there are at least two types: one with the rider holding a whip in his left hand and the IΣ of the legend in front of the horse and downwards and one with the rider not holding a whip and only the Σ of the legend in front of the horse and downwards. I have just added the latter type to my collection.
Enjoy. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=172195
Tracy
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Tracy,
That one is a beauty, both sides. I look forward to the Sassanians, not my area but related to Elymais and all are interesting,
Virgil
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Hi, Tracy, The Larissa coin is great... +++
Congratulation
This is mine :
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=123244
Joe
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Thank you both, Virgil and Joe.
Joe, that's a nice example. Larissa looks so mournful. :D
Virgil,
I working up my Khurso II First Crown write-up now but might not post it on its own. I'm still undecided how I want to do the write-ups, either individually and cross-referenced in some manner or perhaps as some sort of single but large write-up.
Tracy
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Greetings Coin Friends,
My four month lull of adding to my collection has come to an end. I obtained this wonderful coin a while ago and am finally getting around to posting it. Taking a break from my Larissian fractionals, this is a drachm not of the ¾ facing type but of the profile type. The first time I’m bringing this type into my collection. I was delighted to obtain it, as I believe it to be what is referred to in BCD Thessaly I as the “prototype issue” which “...harks back to the work of Euainetos of Syracuse.”
Enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174233
Tracy
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Nice Larissa drachm, though I'm now curious how the reverse texture came to be. It looks like woven fabric, which makes me wonder if it was burried against a piece of fabric that absorbed soil acidity enough to leave its imprint on the fabric of the coin? Interesting nevertheless.
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A beauty
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That one is a beauty, glad your lull is over.
Virgil
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Thank you Jay and Virgil.
Ron, I agree with you about the reverse. It does look as if it is a fabric pattern. The surface is quite porous with scratches. It would indeed be interesting to know how the coin was buried.
Tracy
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Greetings,
Back to fractionals. Another obol featuring the ubiquitous horse obv with Larissa and a hydria on the rev. Now, unfortunately, I’m back in a lull. Hopefully, however, not for long.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174247
Tracy
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That is another beautiful coin.
Virgil
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That's a beauty!
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Wow, I agree... +++
Great coin :) ;)
Joe
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Thank you Virgil, Mark, and Joe.
Tracy
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Greetings,
I waited and waited, and finally snagged a Larissian bull wrestling hemidrachm. It is really gorgeous in hand and the toning is really lovely as well.
If you're interested: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174733
Tracy
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That one is stunning. Beautiful.
Virgil
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Outstanding!
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Wow, Tracy, ;)
Great addition +++
Regards
Joe/Q.
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Thank you Virgil, Jay, and Joe.
Tracy
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I love that coin. +++
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Greetings Coin Friends,
This coin should have been added to my collection quite a while ago but it was seized by US Customs and it took just over five months for a determination in my favor and then receipt of the coin. Needless to say I’m glad that I fought the seizure.
It is another Larissian obol, the ever present horse on the obverse (this one to the left) and the lovely nymph on the reverse, standing to the left with her right hand raised (no ball in sight), her left hand down and behind her holding a wreath, and an upright hydra on the ground in front of her.
I checked 21 different references, found six non-exact matches and cited them. None of the cited references show a horse left and none of them have the same legend/legend orientation on the obverse or reverse, although the lack of a reverse legend match for two of the cited references could simply stem from the final A being worn off.
If you're interested: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=175003
All the best,
Tracy
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Hello Tracy: Interesting coin, although seemingly not of museum quality as to condition, and the assignment of rarity obviously demands scholarly attainments. Are you aware of the reasons for the seizure? MOU as to Greek culture, or just a bad lunch on the part of a customs official? Congratulations! Jim, Perpetual Non-Poster
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Tried to comment on the gallery page, but the Captcha was having nothing of it from me. So happy you finally got it, nice coin, I love the Thessaly coins.
Virgil
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Hello Jim,
Thank you.
The auction house failed to provide the proper paperwork, especially the attestation that the coin did not violate the Importation of Designated Archaeological or Ethnological Material Subject to Bilateral Agreements or Emergency Action agreement, when it was shipped. Thus, the seizure. Once I contacted the auction house they provided all of the necessary documents to me, which I in turn sent to US Customs with a letter arguing my case. Fortunately relief was granted.
You are absolutely correct about the possible rarity designation demanding much more scholarly attention. I just thought it odd that I couldn’t find an exact reference, especially for the orientation of the horse on the obverse. Of course checking 21 references is really a tiny drop in the bucket compared to all of the references out there on Greek coins. Perhaps someday I’ll turn one up.
Be well,
Tracy
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Thank you Virgil.
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Great story Tracy! So glad you managed to obtain it despite the hassle.
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Greetings,
I haven’t added to this thread since March. Laid off coin buying for a while until I bought a wonderful Gnaeus Pompey Junior denarius from Joe that I recently posted in Forum’s Purchase o’ The Day thread.
Here we have another Larissian coin, a drachm of a bull leaping right on the obv. with a Thessalian horsemen galloping r. on the rev. I was absolutely delighted to get this coin, and I think that for the type the condition is quite wonderful and I was lucky to obtain it.
I hope that you enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=178209
All the best,
Tracy
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That one is simply beautiful.
Congrats.
Virgil
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Thank you Virgil. Much appreciated.
Tracy
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Lovely coin Tracy!
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Thank you Ron.
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Greetings,
I am lucky to be able to add another Larissian coin to my collection. Another obol and an example of a type not as of yet represented in my collection: a depiction of Jason’s sandal. On the obverse we have Larissa’s profile to the left and on the reverse is Jason’s sandal to the right.
To me the most endearing quality of this coin is the quaint, archaic depiction of Larissa. To my eye it goes with another Larissian obol in my collection: horse prancing to the right on the obverse with Larissa bouncing a ball to the left on the reverse (the seventh coin in my Larissa gallery, after I add my latest acquisition).
The coins referenced above were once in the BCD Collection (BCD Thessaly I 1098 and 1111, respectively) and then went to the collection of “A Man In Love With Art.” I was fortunate to obtain them both.
Please take a peek if you like: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=179225
All the best,
Tracy
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Great provenance but I really like the unique style
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Great coin, Tracy, and one I had never seen before. You have a good eye!
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I love this one, Tracy, both portrait and reverse. Great find.
Virgil
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Thank you Virgil.
Tracy
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Salutations!
My last coin for the year of 2022. A wonderful Larissian bull wrestling hemidrachm. Our ever-present hero and the bull forepart facing right are featured on the obverse and our ubiquitous horse forepart galloping right are featured on the reverse. What makes this one special to me is the control mark in the form of a plant on the obverse groundline and just under the bull’s raised forelegs.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=179458
Thank you, and Happy New Year!
Tracy
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What a fantastic coin. Congrats!
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That coin is simply stunning. And Happy New Year back at you.
Virgil
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Thank you Jay and Virgil.
Tracy
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Lovely Hemidrachm Tracy! I really like how the reverse was struck with a square die, while the obverse was struck with a round die. It's like a cross between an archaic tetradrachm and a new style drachm all in one tiny coin :)
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Thank you Ron. I like your comment about the round and square dies. The dichotomy of the shapes didn't even cross my mind. :-[
Tracy
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Greetings,
My first two coins of 2023. I already have a Larissian obol with our hero wrestling a bull protome to the right on the obverse and a bridled horse’s head to the right with the legend [Λ]Α upwards on the reverse. Now I have obtained a very similar Larissian obol but with the bull protome and hero to the left and a bridled horse’s head to the right but with the legend reversed, so that it is ΑΛ upwards.
Larissa: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=180111
My second coin is a hemiobol addition to my Attica, Athens gallery.
Attica: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=180130
All the best,
Tracy
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Two wonderful new additions!
Virgil
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Thank you, Virgil. Much appreciated.
Tracy
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Both are great but that hemiobol is fantastic
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Thank you, Jay. Yeah, I love my Larissian fractionals but that Attica hemiobol is indeed special.
Tracy
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As a lover of Greek fractions (and tiny coins and all Thessalian), this is a great pair.
I've only got two (obol from Pelinna [Gallery LINK (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=180004)] & Heraclea Trachinia [ACS LINK] (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9445103)), but Thessalian fractions are wonderful. The number of different types and sub-varieties is overwhelming, and they were portrayed with so much energy and excitement. The Thessalians obviously had so much to say and express on their coins -- it practically smacks you in the teeth (if that's how you carry yours).
Even mints that may have been more expert artistically or technically seemed to concentrate on a much narrower range of imagery (e.g., Athens owls).
Re: the charming little owl... From the Jeroen de Wilde & Herbert A. Cahn sales I managed to get a group lot of low grade tiny fractions (some incredibly tiny) from Asia Minor (CNG's [LINK] (https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-5X5Q52/lot-of-eighteen-18-silver-fractions-5th-3rd-centuries-bc) showing 15). H.A.C.'s interest in archaic coins and fractions gives your Athens Hemiobol an extra level of "cool factor."
Seems he wrote at least one article on Athens coinage (archaic tetradrachm), “Zur frühattischen Münzprägung” (1946) in Museum Helveticum [e-periodica.ch LINK] (https://www.e-periodica.ch/digbib/view?pid=mhl-001%3A1946%3A3%3A%3A139). And his articles on Themistokles (JSTOR: [LINK] (https://www.jstor.org/stable/42668124) and [LINK] (https://www.jstor.org/stable/42667700)) also touch on Athenian coinage, but mainly as a monetary standard or point of contrast.
I don't have his books yet, but I wonder what he says about Athenian fractions...
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Good points, Curtis. In checking out your Plinna obol on your FAC gallery, I relished your insights into the BCD sale and the subsequent NAC auction of the Al Thani collection.
Tracy's latest coins are worthy additions to his collection. I lean towards the Larissa bull fraction, simply as a more obscure variety. That said, Jason's sandal strikes me as something really special.
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Thank you, Curtis and Anaximander, for the kind comments. And Curtis, that is a great Pelinna obol.
My gateway into the coinage of Larissa was, of course, the facing head drachms and I currently have five of them (three of them from Joe’s wonder FAC!). However, even just a general perusal of Catherine Lorber’s work makes one realize that the variations for the facing heads are seemingly endless. Plus, some facing heads can be quite expensive. So I turned to the fractionals originally as a cost saving measure. Well, some of them can also be quite expensive but I “fell in love” with them nonetheless. And, of course, a perusal of both BCD catalogs and HGC 4 leaves one with a sense of the voluminous different types of Larissian fractionals. I think that Curtis summed it up best: “...and they were portrayed with so much energy and excitement.”
The amount of detail and care that went into some of these Larissian fractions just boggles my mind and sometimes leaves me a bit speechless.
Tracy
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Greetings,
I have not added a coin to my collection in about six months, but I’m pleased to finally make an addition.
I was able to obtain a wonderful Larissian bull protome and bridled horse’s head obol but unlike my other five examples of this type my latest acquisition has a dolphin control mark.
Hope that you enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=183312
All the best,
Tracy
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Great detail on a small coin. Congrats!
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The attitude of the Thessalian engraver: How many animals can I fit on one Obol?
What a charming variant. Even without the dolphin that would be a great Larissa obol. Really nice one all around.
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Jay and Curtis, thank you both. I agree that it is amazing what engravers were able to put on such tiny coins.
Tracy
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That is truly a beautiful coin.
Virgil
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Thank you, Virgil. Much appreciated.
Tracy
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I love the detail on the horse, great coin.
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Thank you Ron, as always.
Tracy
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Greetings,
It’s been since late July of the past year that I’ve added a coin to my collection and posted it. I have finally added another coin (and I have one other in the works). Because I could go all over the place, I’ve tried to be very disciplined and stick to my narrow focus: Larissian fractionals. That’s one reason that I’ve purchased only two coins in the past five months. The other reason is that I’ve been “cheating” on my numismatics/coin hobby by pouring my time and money into a phaleristics hobby.
But to the coin: this is another Larissian obol with a prancing horse obverse and Larissa balancing a hydria on her left knee reverse. I already have a version of this type, but my new coin differs in two ways: (1) on the obverse the horse is prancing left and the lion’s head is facing left; (2) unlike my other coin of this type, on the new coin there is clearly something coming out of the lion’s head on the obverse. A short stream of water? A tongue?? None of the sources reference this fact.
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=185749
Thanks, as always, for looking.
Tracy
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Great little coin
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looks great Tracy! I'm in the same boat - trying to stay focused on current collection lines, so acquisitions are now less frequent. I need to photo a few I've been sitting on :)
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Very nice addition 😉🤗👍
Joe /Q.
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Thank you Jay, Ron, and Joe.
Ron, looking forward to seeing what you have in the hopper waiting to be photographed. I have to admit that being disciplined in my purchasing is a bit more difficult than I thought.
Tracy
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Well, here’s my second coin for the past five months: a Larissian fractional with Larissa three-quarters facing left on the obverse and rider on a horse prancing right on the reverse. I already have this type but what attracted me to this particular coin was its identification as an obol. I didn't pay attention to the weight, I just paid attention to the listed denomination and reference. After further research it turns out that the seller mis-read the SNG COP description between nos. 134 and 135 (easy to do if taking a quick glance) and thought no. 134 (my coin) was the obol when it turns out that no. 135 is the obol and no. 134 is a trihemiobol. I note that SNG COP does have a question mark after each listed denomination for nos. 134 and 135, so even the cataloger wasn’t certain.
I went through all my Larissian references and only Babelon in Traité and Herrmann in “Die Silbermünzen…” attest to an obol for this type; all of the other references that list this type do so as a trihemiobol.
My coin is 11mm and 1.04g. I hemmed and hawed: Is it a trihemiobol? Is it an obol? Finally, I just decided to call it an “obol (?)”.
Thanks for looking: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=185762
Tracy
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Nice one Tracey,
Virgil
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Thank you, Virgil. Much appreciated.
Tracy
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My latest purchase is another Larissian obol (see below). On the obverse is Larissa’s profile to the left with a double headed ax in front and on the reverse is Jason’s sandal to the right with the legend Λ - Α above.
This new coin is very similar to the first Larissian coin (00001, also an obol) I have in my gallery, with two very notable exceptions: on my first coin of this type (1) there is no double headed ax in front of Larissa’s profile and (2) the rendition of the profile is of an archaic style.
BCD dates the minting of my “archaic profile” coin (which was actually his coin, sold in BCD Thessaly I as Lot 1098) from c. 500 - 479 BC. In BCD Thessaly II Lot 140 we find another obol with Larissa in profile and Jason’s sandal on the reverse. Lot 140 has a double headed ax as on my new coin, but there are major differences on the reverse: Lot 140 has the sandal facing left, a square within the incuse, a four letter legend ΛΑRΙ that is retrograde and upside down, and a sideways H on the groundline. BCD dates the minting Lot 140 to start where the “archaic profile” coin ends: c. 479 BC.
Where does my new coin fit in with this picture?
SNG Cop 90, dated to c. 500 - 479 BC, is an exact match for my new coin, but there is no double ax. Weber 2826, dated to before c. 480 BC, would be an exact match if (1) the sandal was facing right. Weber 2826 has the legend Λ - Α on the reverse but the digitization of the plate doesn’t allow me to actually see the legend or its placement vis-a-vis the sandal. I wonder if the Λ - Α are retrograde and upside down like the legend is on BCD Thessaly II Lot 140, and I actually wonder if the legend in the catalog shouldn’t have been written as ΛΑ[RΙ]. Two letters or four letters?
I wondered if my new coin had a complete legend or if the legend was incomplete and perhaps R - Ι were off flan. On BCD Thessaly II Lot 140 the Λ sits right above the top of the sandal that would wrap the ankle and the I is actually over the toe as a horizontal line. On my coin the Λ sits about halfway between where the sandal would wrap the ankle and the toe of the sandal, over which the Α just about sits. If I assume, and this is a BIG assumption, that the die engraver(s) were to fit the legend over the sandal from heel to toe, then I could thereby assume that my new coin has a complete legend of just two letters.
What was my question again? Oh, where does my new coin fit in?
I don’t really have any evidence for this, but if I assume that the two letter legend predated the four letter legend, then perhaps my new coin was a transitional type minted sometime between, oh I don’t know, 490 - 480 BC. Now I’m kind of just guessing and I’ve exhausted myself.
Anyway, it’s a nice coin, although a bit harshly cleaned, and I’m delighted to have it in my collection.
Enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=186281
Tracy
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Your guess is as good as mine, but it is a great acquisition! Even though this isn't my collecting field, I'd love to have one of these sandal types! Congrats!
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Greetings,
I was able to obtain this wonderful little Athenian tritartemorion. No owl on this reverse; just horn-inward crescents and the legend E☉A within.
For the six references in which I found this coin, none depicted in a plate photograph or catalog write-up the particular legend arrangement on this coin. I was not able to distinguish the legend arrangement on two photographs and although Kroll states that arrangement variations exist he did not enumerate them.
Enjoy, and thanks for looking: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=186450
Tracy
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Nice little coin Tracy
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Nice little fraction of Athens.
I am surprised that Chester Starr (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Starr) (Athenian Coinage, 480-449 BC) has so little to offer on Athenian fractions for this period. Yes, there seems to be a lack of surviving specimens. Anything less than a drachm is described as a hemi-drachm or an obol, with nary a tritartemorion.
My Athenian |obol (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=159390)turned out to be a Bactrian imitation of the "Athenian series."
PS: I had to go find a copy of Svoronos Athens. I found it on the Gallica (http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb45106147q) (BnF) site, but I couldn't download it because I've made too many requests! Actually, there were rather few requests, but Gallica probably counted the number of requests but not the number of downloads, since I always encounter site errors and have to go through my workarounds. I wonder how long I am banished from downloads.
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Hello Jay and Anaximander,
Thank you both. I too was surprised when I went through my copy of Starr. I was certainly hoping for something there, but alas. Hopefully you won’t be banished from Gallica BnF downloads for very long.
A Bactrian imitation. Nice, even if you thought it was otherwise. Over time I’ve toyed with starting a collection of imitations. Maybe someday….
All the best,
Tracy
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Well, today was a twofer: two write-ups completed and thus two coins added to my gallery. This is another Athenian coin, this time a drachm.
The theme of this gallery seems to be collecting one of each denomination.
As always, thanks for looking: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=186455
Tracy
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Courtesy of three wonderful lots right here on Forum, which I purchased from Joe, I suddenly find myself interested in medals and tokens centered around Lord Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson. This new addition to my gallery was not from Joe; that one is coming later this week.
I just added a Shipwrecked Fishermen and Mariners Royal Benevolent Society Membership Token to my burgeoning collection. Per the Royal Museums Greenwich website this is a membership token issued annually as a receipt for a subscription. The date at 6h is the date of issue, which would make sense given that it is an annual membership token. Besides, I’ve seen other examples with different dates. I assume that the № in the left field was for inscribing one’s membership number, but I have no evidence of that.
I hope that you enjoy: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=187095
Tracy