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Offline areich

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You're all amateurs
« on: August 16, 2011, 07:34:33 am »
Yes, someone finally said it.
Here's how STRIKING a PROFESSIONALLY restored ancient coin looks.

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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 08:16:21 am »
Wow, thanks Andreas.  I could never quite put my finger on where we were all going wrong, and now I understand!  If only we could do as good a job of restoring and conserving as this esteemed alleged member of the PCGS!
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 08:20:06 am »
It must have been that "finishing coat" that turned that bronze coin silver. I bow to their masterful cleaning techniques!  ::)

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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 08:56:27 am »
Quote from: casata137ec on August 16, 2011, 08:20:06 am
It must have been that "finishing coat" that turned that bronze coin silver. I bow to their masterful cleaning techniques!  ::)

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No that's the original silver wash, brilliantly restored by the cleaning. These small silver-washed bronze folles were, in official Roman terms, considered to be silver coins. It certainly was washed in silver when made, it looked silver when issued, and a careful and sensitive restoration has unveiled its natural silver.
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 09:13:23 am »
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 09:24:20 am »
Beautiful
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 09:30:21 am »
Quote from: Andrew McCabe on August 16, 2011, 08:56:27 am
Quote from: casata137ec on August 16, 2011, 08:20:06 am
It must have been that "finishing coat" that turned that bronze coin silver. I bow to their masterful cleaning techniques!  ::)

Chris

No that's the original silver wash, brilliantly restored by the cleaning. These small silver-washed bronze folles were, in official Roman terms, considered to be silver coins. It certainly was washed in silver when made, it looked silver when issued, and a careful and sensitive restoration has unveiled its natural silver.

Whilst that is impressive Andrew, I think the real genius is the way they have managed to restore the gilt on the faces and hands of the reverse.  Surely restoring something that none of us even knew happened to common bronzes is the major surprise with their astounding cleaning abilities.
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 09:49:09 am »
Sadly, there are actually bids on some of his offerings, mostly from newbies.

mz
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 10:30:59 am »
From now on I will enhance every single reverse in my collection with colors. That's terrific !

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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 11:28:28 am »
Personally, I think they should add small diamond chips, or at least cut glass crystal to add to the sparkle that I'm sure was there originally ;) I mean, come on, why do a half... job ::) This was Rome for crying out loud!

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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 11:38:17 am »
Quote from: Potator II on August 16, 2011, 10:30:59 am
From now on I will enhance every single reverse in my collection with colors. That's terrific !

:laugh:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE&feature=related
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 01:52:40 pm »
I'm new to this whole ancient coin thing, but this coin is hilarious. I didn't know sharpies were an acceptable form of restoration... ::)
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 03:19:35 pm »
Quote from: Steve E on August 16, 2011, 11:38:17 am
Quote from: Potator II on August 16, 2011, 10:30:59 am
From now on I will enhance every single reverse in my collection with colors. That's terrific !

:laugh:
Potator

Here's an alternative to painting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE&feature=related

Scary!

mz
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 04:02:50 pm »
Quote from: Mark Z on August 16, 2011, 09:49:09 am
Sadly, there are actually bids on some of his offerings, mostly from newbies.

mz

I hope its not a teacher  :o
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 09:06:49 pm »
That is hideous!
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2011, 01:48:54 am »
Quote from: Steve E on August 16, 2011, 11:38:17 am
Quote from: Potator II on August 16, 2011, 10:30:59 am
From now on I will enhance every single reverse in my collection with colors. That's terrific !

:laugh:
Potator

Here's an alternative to painting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ml8tAnWE&feature=related


Wow. My collection is about to become so much more valuable!

/off to buy some zinc...
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 08:48:07 pm »
Ave!

Here's one of mine; a truly cleaned and restored example...done by me, of course.  ;D

Licinius II, silvered AE 3, Siscia Mint, RIC 132, R1

Best regards,

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Re: You're all amateurs
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Re: You're all amateurs
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2012, 05:40:38 am »
I didn't want to say anything at first but what have you done with the coin? Depatinated and then painted with silver paint? It is silver in colour but that is clearly no original silvering. Or did you use the baking method to 'restore silvering'?
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