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Carausius:
I just got home and compared the hand-pricing in my catalogue to Carthago's official prices realized  list.  They are an exact match!  Even the combined lots are correctly  identified in my catalogue by bracketed prices.  I'm very pleased to have a hand-priced copy of this important sale, and also pleased that the "pencil notations throughout" likely reduced the price I paid from the (non-numismatic) book seller!

Thanks again for sharing that photo, Carthago.

Carausius:
Received in today's mail:

R. Ratto - Feb 1930 - Collection Joseph Martini de New York.  Original card covers with loose plates in integrated folder.  Cover and plates folder a bit worn, but contents and plates in great shape.  Happy to have this important sale catalogue checked-off my want list!

I will likely rebind this catalogue, but need to give serious consideration on how to handle the plates.  Three of the plates are double-sized, folded aes grave plates.  I could simply continue the integrated folder concept - the plates have survived well enough after 85 years in such a folder - but I do feel that there is greater risk of inadvertently damaging or losing plates with that approach.  I could also have the plates hinged, so that the folded plates can be folded into the bound catalogue - like a Playboy centerfold.  The Attic reprint of the Sydenham catalogue handles double -size plates that way, and it seems to work well. I would be curious to hear from any Forum members that have a rebound copy of the Martini or Sydenham catalogues - how were your plates bound?

Andrew McCabe:

--- Quote from: Carausius on July 25, 2015, 12:16:18 pm ---R. Ratto - Feb 1930 - Collection Joseph Martini de New York.  Original card covers with loose plates in integrated folder.  Cover and plates folder a bit worn, but contents and plates in great shape.  Happy to have this important sale catalogue checked-off my want list!

I will likely rebind this catalogue, but need to give serious consideration on how to handle the plates.  Three of the plates are double-sized, folded aes grave plates.  I could simply continue the integrated folder concept - the plates have survived well enough after 85 years in such a folder - but I do feel that there is greater risk of inadvertently damaging or losing plates with that approach.  I could also have the plates hinged, so that the folded plates can be folded into the bound catalogue - like a Playboy centerfold.  The Attic reprint of the Sydenham catalogue handles double -size plates that way, and it seems to work well. I would be curious to hear from any Forum members that have a rebound copy of the Martini or Sydenham catalogues - how were your plates bound?

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I wonder who you thought might answer this question ;)

Sydenham - stitched in the centre of the page
Martini Ratto 1930 - stitched in the centre of the page

You can see exactly how it looks in the photo below.

However as a caution, my copy of Quadras y Ramon Bourgey Nov13 happens to have a poor quality copy of Martini Ratto 1930 bound in; in this copy, centre-stitching is also used but somehow the binding is so tight that one just can't see the coins at centre. It's tough to advise your bookbinder to bind-loose, but you may need to discuss it. All that said, those few aes grave at the centre of those three pages are not very consequential. I do have other catalogues where one edge is stiched in and the page folds out. Possibly if that's an option its worth discussing.

Andrew McCabe:
I had lucky provenancing spree on Friday evening: in a three hour period I found six provenances in Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) fixed price lists from 1950s to 1980s. Of those six, one was a coin on its way to be sold, and one was a provenance I already had in my records. Four were entirely new, and three of those were pre-Novevember 1970, which is the Gold Standard when it comes to provenances. Here are the four:


Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) List 189 April 1959 lot 41


Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) List 215 September 1961 lot 71


Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) List 260 December 1965 lot 24


Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) List 352 January 1974 lot 32

On Saturday I continued my quest and scored zero when searching Schulten and MunzZentrum (except the famed MunzZentrum XXX 1977 sale from which I've about a dozen bronzes). But I learnt some things from the process I followed Saturday and from the success on Friday. The reason for my luck with Muenzen und Medaillen (Basel) is that their coins are typically of the quality I collect: rare coins in quite nice condition and commoner coins in really nice condition (but not FDC) such as the LEG II and the Faustus Sulla. But the sales I checked Saturday were mostly full of common coins in quite nice condition or rare coins in terrible condition. I realised it was pretty much inevitable that I'd find nothing. So for some catalogue series, one can quickly enough determine whether or not its likely to be useful. I did however on Saturday find three or four coins which I used to own but sold in recent years. Thus those catalogues reflect the quality of coins I collected maybe twenty years ago, and I've few of such coins in my collection today.

Carausius:

--- Quote from: Andrew McCabe on July 26, 2015, 04:20:59 am ---
--- Quote from: Carausius on July 25, 2015, 12:16:18 pm ---I would be curious to hear from any Forum members that have a rebound copy of the Martini or Sydenham catalogues - how were your plates bound?

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I wonder who you thought might answer this question ;)

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I had two likely candidates in mind.  ;)  Thanks for your reply.  I'm not too keen on the center stitching, as I want to preserve full visibility. I'm leaning toward hinging and binding the left side of each double plate so that they fold-out.  I'm hopeful this can be done in a single volume without page-sizing issues.

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