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PtolemAE:
It's bronze, 27mm, 6h, and 16.3 grams. Seemingly a 'Magna Graecia' Italian coin type. Obverse 'laureate Zeus' facing right and reverse is an open-wing eagle on thunderbolt facing left with inscription 'thoyrion' at left. The only reference I have for it is 'Garucci Plate 107-3' and haven't found a coin quite like this on other sites. What caught my eye was the 'Ptolemaic-looking' reverse. I hope someone knows more about this type, where other specimens might be compared, and something about the approximate dating and situation of its issue. Hazarding a wild guess it might be from mid-3rd C. BC. Maybe there's an HN Italy reference or it can be found in an SNG that covers Lucania, Thurium in someone's library or someone knows more about the Garucci book (title?). The pics here show it pretty well but higher resolution images available.

Thank you,

PtolemAE

Update - Managed to find one other specimen - New York Sale, 2006, Lot 17. From the 'Moretti Collection'

Altamura:

--- Quote from: PtolemAE on July 23, 2022, 05:08:42 pm ---... or someone knows more about the Garucci book (title?). ...
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Garrucci is Raffaele Garrucci, "Le monete dell'Italia antica", Rome 1885. Plate 107 number 3 can be seen here :): https://archive.org/details/lemonetedellital00garr/page/n411/mode/2up
A rather poor description can be found on page 143: https://archive.org/details/lemonetedellital00garr/page/142/mode/2up

Regards

Altamura

Altamura:

--- Quote from: PtolemAE on July 23, 2022, 05:08:42 pm ---... and haven't found a coin quite like this on other sites. ...
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The British Museum has a specimen: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_1908-1206-1

On Magna Graecia Coins this type is mentioned: http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Lucania_map/Thurii_map/Thurii.html (last but one) and dated with "218-201 BC (2nd Punic War)". There are no further references besides Garrucci and BMC.

Regards

Altamura

Altamura:
I found two more references :):

Giuseppe Fiorelli, "Monete inedite - 2. Thurium in Lucania", Annali di numismatica 1, Rome 1846, p. 22, plate I, 11:
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb10684763?q=%28Annali+di+numismatica%29&page=22,23 (text)
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb10684763?q=%28Annali+di+numismatica%29&page=256,257 (plate)

C. Cavedoni, "Due monete di Thurium di riscontro ad un luogo controverso di Strabone", Bullettino dell'Instituto di Corrispondenza Archeologica per l'anno 1847, pp. 186-87: http://opacplus.bsb-muenchen.de/title/3255294/ft/bsb10256523?page=190

Regards

Altamura

Altamura:

--- Quote from: PtolemAE on July 23, 2022, 05:08:42 pm ---... Update - Managed to find one other specimen - New York Sale, 2006, Lot 17. From the 'Moretti Collection' ...
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That's this one: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=278115

Two more are these:
https://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotviewer.php?LotID=1999035&AucID=4753&Lot=17&Val=f671093e975f61aaac013ce62226536a
https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/de/single/l35006937?text=thurium%20eagle

Regards

Altamura

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