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Title: SNG
Post by: moonmoth on January 26, 2007, 07:42:28 am
I only have a couple of Greek references, Sear's "Greek Coins and Their Values" and the one this post is about.  

I have just bought Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum vol VIII, The Hart Collection, Blackburn Museum because I saw it on sale for 20 pounds.  It seems very clear and straightforward, and looks useful, though not necessarily more so than a few good auction catalogues would be.

Now, I often see "SNG Cop" referred to - the book of the Copenhagen museum collection.  This does not appear in the list of SNG volumes in the one I have.  The collections in this list are all British (and nearly all the volumes were out of print when this Vol VIII was published in 1989).

So, what's the numbering system for SNG?  Do different countries publish different volumes and number them differently?  Is this just a name for a catalogue of a collection, and everyone uses it?  How does this work?

ADMIN NOTE: In addition to reading and posting here, please read and update changes to the SNG list on NumisWiki's Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum page. Click the link below:


SYLLOGE NUMMORUM GRAECORUM

Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Bacchus on January 26, 2007, 01:16:10 pm
Someone must have got a batch job of these Vol. VIII's as they regularly appear at this price.  I bought one about a year ago but found it not particually helpful for my needs, though I still like it in my library collection and it does cover 1316 coins  :)

Malcolm
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: moonmoth on January 26, 2007, 02:17:46 pm
Yes, there's a lot in it, and it's a very broad collection.  For example, it includes one (1)  drachm of Khushru II, just about the commonest type of Sasanian coin, and not what most people would regard as Greek.  But even there it is interesting, because it gives the inscription and a translation, which are very rarely found on line.  As Joe says, it's good browsing material.  So are catalogues, but this is a bit more specific and detailed than even the good ones.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: areich on January 26, 2007, 03:48:06 pm
I still have only the SNG Righetti and even though it's not one of the main ones it's a good way to practice looking up stuff.
Which is not as easy as I thougt it would be.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: moonmoth on January 26, 2007, 05:13:39 pm
As is often the case, if you don't know the coin's origin, it's a question of finding a picture of a coin that is coin like the example in front of you.  On-line searches will often get you a match or a near miss.

I see that face matching software has started to become available on the web.  Now it seems to me that if software can match faces, it ought to be able to find a coin like mine.  I wonder  ...
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: GAT on May 09, 2011, 08:59:42 am
A SNG volume of the Pushkin Museum's collection of coins from the Northern Black Sea littoral has now been published:
http://www.peeters-leuven.be/boekoverz.asp?nr=8554
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: GAT on July 04, 2011, 08:06:54 am
Update for SNG Turkey:

Turkey

I.              The Muharrem Kayhan Collection. 2002 (1,076 coins)

II.            Anamur Museum
                Vol. 1: Roman provincial coins. 2007 (469 coins)

III.           Çanakkale Museum
                Vol. 1: Roman Provincial Coins of Mysia, Troas, etc. 2009 (667 coins)

IV.            The Selcuk Tanrikulu Collection. 2010 (541 coins from Mysia, Troad and Aeolis)

V.             Tire Museum (Izmir)
                Vol. 1: Roman Provincial Coins From Ionia, Lydia, Phrygia, etc. 2011 (? coins)
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on June 03, 2013, 09:10:16 pm
"Tire Museum (Izmir)
                Vol. 1: Roman Provincial Coins From Ionia, Lydia, Phrygia, etc. 2011 (? coins)"

This volume has 561 coins and is very useful as are the other SNG Turkey volumes . The text is in English and it has indexes of cities, reverse types and magistrates' names.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on June 03, 2013, 11:00:46 pm
In addition to posting here, please make updates to the NumisWiki Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum page.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: rennrad12020 on June 20, 2013, 03:56:40 am
Came across this today.  I thought some may be interested.

Quote
A SNG volume of the Pushkin Museum's collection of coins from the Northern Black Sea littoral has now been published:
http://www.peeters-leuven.be/boekoverz.asp?nr=8554

Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2013.06.27
Sergei A. Kovalenko, Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum: State Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts. Coins of the Black Sea Region, Part I: Ancient Coins from the Northern Black Sea Littoral. Colloquia antiqua, 3.   Leuven; Paris; Walpole, MA:  Peeters, 2011.  Pp. xvi, 192.  ISBN 9789042921375.  €87.00.  

Reviewed by Edward Dandrow, University of Central Florida (Edward.Dandrow@ucf.edu)
I begin by apologizing to the author, the editors of BMCR and its readers for the lateness of this review. Kovalenko’s catalogue of the coinage of the northern littoral of the Black Sea in the State Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts is an excellent addition to the quickly growing corpus of the Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum and is its first publication in SNG format. The author selected this less well-known museum rather than the State Hermitage or Historical museums to make the collection known to western scholars. In his preface he writes, “If this sylloge can even partially remedy this situation, I will consider my task fulfilled.” I consider his task fulfilled.

Two short prefaces, one from the series editor and another from the author, begin the publication. Following these is an interesting introduction that addresses the history of the museum and its coin collection (ix-xiii). Its history is tied to Moscow University. The origins of the collection began in the eighteenth century, but in 1818 it was housed in a distinct Münzkabinett. The coin collection would eventually be housed in the museum, which was the brainchild of P.M. Leont’ev and was founded in 1851. Archaeological excavations in the 1850s and 60s added significantly to the collection. Beginning in 1889, I.V. Tsvetaev began organizing a new phase in the history of the museum—namely converting it into an independent public museum, the foundations of which were laid in 1898 and opened to the public in 1912. The coinage of the northern Black Sea littoral dramatically increased both with expanded archaeological projects in the 1920s and 30s and when A.G. Golikov bequeathed his collection to the museum in 1940/41. It wasn’t until 1945 that a Numismatics Department was created and the coinage in the museum was made available to the public.

Following the author’s introduction is a list of abbreviations, in which the author has translated Russian works into English. All the standard works on coinage in the Black Sea region are represented. The catalogue consists of 1,870 coins dating from the sixth century BC to the fourth century AD and presented on 90 plates. Poorly preserved specimens and those housed in the Department of the History and Culture of the Ancient World are excluded from the catalogue. The division of the coinage is based on city and rulers and consists of the following: Tyra (11 coins), Olbia (583), Cercinitis (7), Chersonesus (147), Theodosia (5), Nymphaeum (1), Panticapaeum (481), Panticapaeum as Caesarea (16), Phanagoria (59), Phanagoria as Agrippa (14), Gorgippia (6), the Sindi (2), and the Kingdom of the Bosporus consisting of Leucon (10), Paerisades (2), Mithradates Eupator (21), Asander (11), unknown kings from 17/16 BC to AD 13 (19), Aspurgus (25), Gepaepyris (13), Mithradates III (13), Cotys I (36), Rhescuporis II (17), Sauromates I (71), Cotys II (15), Rhoemetalces (24), Eupator (11), Sauromates II (29), Rhescuporis III (41), Cotys III (11), Sauromates III (2), Inthimeus (15), Rhescuporis V (28), Pharzanos (2), Sauromates IV (3), Teiranos (3), Thothorses (38), Rademsades (11) and Rhescuporis VI (67). Overall, the number of specimens is representative of the commonness or rarity of the coinage of certain cities and kings. The total numbers, however, obscure rare or unique issues in the collection, such as a bronze coin from Theodosia (no. 753), a Bosporan stater dating from 3/2 BC and found at Phanagoria (no. 1391), and the staters of Aspurgus from AD 32/33 (no. 1394) and King Pharzoios from the mid-late first century AD (no. 460). Concluding the catalogue is a series of excellent indexes that are divided into the following subjects: (1) Cites and Kingdoms; (2) Kings, Dynasts and Chieftains; (3) Obverse and Reverse types; (4) Names of Magistrates; (5) Additional Symbols; (6) Countermarks; and (7) Overstrikes.

The catalogue’s pictures are clear and the information is presented in the standard SNG format. Moreover, the paper and binding are excellent. There are a few minor criticisms that some will consider quibbling. The first is the SNG format itself, which records the weights and die orientations for the coins, but does not include their sizes. As usual, readers should have their rulers or calipers readily available. The second is the bibliographic citations in the Abbreviations section of the book. This reviewer certain welcomes the translation of Russian titles into English, but they should have also been presented in their original language for those scholars interested in full bibliographic citation. Finally, there is an editorial inconsistency to indicate whether this catalogue is part of a series—the title page includes “Part I”, but the cover lacks “Part I”. Despite these minor criticisms the catalogue is an excellent addition to the SNG series and a valuable resource for scholars interested in the northern littoral of the Black Sea. The reviewer looks forward to future publications of the ancient coin collection at the State Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Tomasz P on December 20, 2016, 01:42:20 pm

                     

Poland

I.                     Łodź. The Archaeological and Ethnographical Museum.

                        Part 4:  Galatia – Zeugitana. 1998.


We have 2 new volumes:

II. Cracow. The National Museum in Cracow,
Part 4 - Sarmatia - Bosporus. 2006

III. Warsaw. The National Museum in Warsaw,
Part 1 - The Northern Black Sea Coast Chersonesus - Bosporus. 2015

Volumes from Łódź and Warsaw are available to buy.

Regards,
Tomek
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on December 20, 2016, 02:07:39 pm
Do you have link to where they can be purchased online?
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Tomasz P on December 20, 2016, 02:34:36 pm
Unfortunately, Institution which is distributor of those books, is a little old-fashioned, so You can only place an order by e-mail, and then, they'll send to You details including bank account no.

Price of 1 volume is 42 pln (something about 10 euro), but I don't have any informations about shipping charges...

Mail for order: wydawnictwo@pau.krakow.pl

Site of distributor (unfortunately only in Polish :( ): http://pau.krakow.pl/index.php/pl/wydawnictwo/informacje-dotyczace-sprzedazy (http://pau.krakow.pl/index.php/pl/wydawnictwo/informacje-dotyczace-sprzedazy)

If You have any questions just send an private message to me - I'll help as much as i could :)
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on December 20, 2016, 07:16:47 pm
I sent an email to see if I can get them for the Forum shop.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: zoser on January 12, 2018, 12:13:13 pm
Hi everyone, I am interested on buying sng cop, all the 7 books as it seems they are the most mentioned references on Greek ancient coin auctions, does anyone know were to find them? Or download them by paying any fees?

King regards to everyone and thanks
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: peterpil19 on January 12, 2018, 04:36:58 pm
Hi Zoser,

To my knowledge, no SNGS are freely available. The sylloge nummorum graecorum website covers only a limited number of them in its database such as SNG Fitzwilliam.

SNG Copenhagen is very wide and covers a lot. But it does not contain every variant and sometimes may only have one example, when in fact there might be many variants.  To get precise references, you will still need the standard reference for that type of coinage, which is not always feasible. I should note that it does have additional limitations. First, it has some of the worst plates I have ever come across. In some cases, without the descriptions, the plates are frustratingly useless. The second limitation is that the descriptions can be lacking in sufficient detail (as is the case with many SNGs) and sometimes important differences which are noted as variants in other references, are simply not described.  Overall I find it a useful reference (given its wide coverage) and consult it regularly. That is my experience anyway.

I will send you a PM on where you can find it for sale. I do not see it in the FORVM shop unfortunately.

Peter
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: zoser on January 12, 2018, 06:02:14 pm
Hi Peter, yes first at all I had a look at Forum's site but Joe doesn't have them.

By the way is there any other catalogue that you would recommend instead of these ones? I am mainly focused on Greek coins and would really love to have sources to look for them by myself as without I am really struggling.

Thanks so much for giving g a hand.
Zoser
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Enodia on January 12, 2018, 06:20:17 pm
I would probably go with ANS rather than Cop as I have found it more useful in my Greek collecting, but that's just my preference.

~ Peter
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on January 12, 2018, 08:36:28 pm
SNG Cop is far more complete than SNG ANS.  We have SNG Cop in the shop now.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1136

ADMIN UPDATE: SOLD
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: peterpil19 on January 14, 2018, 02:04:03 am
Hi Peter, yes first at all I had a look at Forum's site but Joe doesn't have them.

By the way is there any other catalogue that you would recommend instead of these ones? I am mainly focused on Greek coins and would really love to have sources to look for them by myself as without I am really struggling.

Thanks so much for giving g a hand.
Zoser

Hi Zoser,

1. I just had a look. Joe is offering a great deal on SNG Copenhagen if you intend to buy it.

2.  Hoover's Handbook of Greek Coinage is very extensive. Unlike Sear, it attempts to capture variants and consolidates them under each relevant catalogue entry, which is incredibly convenient. Whilst each volume is relatively inexpensive, there are 12 volumes (2 of which I believe are not yet published), so the cost adds up. One alternative approach would be to buy volumes that you need now, and others later, as you require them.

Peter
Title: Re: SNG Copenhagen
Post by: Anaximander on July 31, 2019, 02:53:49 pm
Along with Hoover's Handbook of Greek Coinage series and the SNG ANS series, SNG Copenhagen is a mainstay of my Greek numismatic reference material, but it has its faults.  The folio format is merely inconvenient. Since numismatic references are usually mint-driven, and not organized alphabetically, the biggest challenge can be the lack of a table of contents or index.  Perhaps the Supplement has one, but I've never seen it.  Taking matters into my own hands, I've crafted my own table of contents (or "TOC") for each of the eight volumes.  I hope it can serve others. 

I've left a link to the table of contents pdf at the Numiswiki page for SNG Copenhagen, and it's also available in the TOC folder in my gallery. 

As a new Forum member, there is quite a bit of novelty value in uploading, linking, posting...  please let me know of better ways of sharing.

Table of Contents (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-156937)

I welcome comments, questions, and above all, corrections. 

Anaximander
My Gallery (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=49243)
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on August 01, 2019, 09:05:49 am
Excellent.  It will be helpful for me.  We could put the TOC right on the NumisWiki page, if that works for you?
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Charles M on August 02, 2019, 08:01:20 am
Wow.  What an amount of work went into that!  That will make using SNG Cop so much easier.  Thank you for sharing.

Charles M.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Altamura on August 10, 2019, 03:23:53 am
Why is the SNG Cop on the Numiswiki page described as "Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, Deutschland, The Royal Collection of Coins and Medals, Danish National Museum"???
I don't think that the Danish like that  ;).

Regards

Altamura
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Anaximander on August 10, 2019, 06:15:20 am
Well spotted, Altamura.  How did I not see that?  ::)  Deutschland has already appropriated Slesvig, they can't have Copenhagen, too!  Perhaps Joe Sermarini will be kind enough to do some repairs.

After posting my table of contents for SNG Cop., an effort that cobbled together smaller efforts over several years, I've added a couple more posts to my "TOC" gallery:
The Dewing Collection and the Norman Davis Collection, both in the ANS ACNAC series.  Neither compares to the SNG Cop. (which I have) or SNG Deutschland (which I do not). 
I am working on a table of contents for the SNG ANS series.  That's all of nine volumes, not including the Burton Y. Berry two-volume collection that came before.  I recently posted my table of contents to the SNG ANS Berry Coll. It'd be great if the ANS 'TOCs' somehow got onto their Numiswiki page, assuming there is one. (UPDATE: SNG ANS, with links added from Numiswiki, and other SNG added, links below.   

Here are links to SNG (and similar) posts to my TOC gallery. To be clear, these are just pdf of table of contents (almost an index) to numismatic references, not full text or jpg of coins. 
 for TOC |SNG |Copenhagen (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49243/SNG-Cop_TOC.pdf)
 for TOC |ANS |SNG vol. 1-9. (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=157681)
 for TOC |ANS |ACNAC |Dewing Coll. (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49243/ACNAC_6_Dewing_Collection_TOC.pdf)
 for TOC |ANS |ACNAC |Davis Coll. (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49243/ACNAC_1_Davis_Collection_TOC.pdf)
 for TOC |SNG |ANS |Berry Coll. (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/49243/SNG_ANS_BerryCollection_TOC.pdf)
 for TOC |SNG |Levante  (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=161986)
 for TOC |SNG |France vol. 1-3.  (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=161987)
 for TOC |SNG |Turkey vol. 1-4. (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=166114)

Cheers~
Anaximander
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Anaximander on September 03, 2019, 06:41:44 am
I make extensive use of SNG ANS in cataloging my Greek coinage.  It has a lot of coins and great coin plates.  Its weakness is a familiar and fundamental deficiency in the SNG format: no table of contents, and no page numbers.  So here's my stab at a table of contents for SNG ANS, uploaded to my TOC gallery here.   (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-157681)
Please let me know of any shortcomings!

Anaximander
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Flav V on July 07, 2022, 11:30:46 am
Hello,

There is actually 3 books on sale. Here is the link to contact the library: librairie.archaion@skynet.be

They are in belgium. I already bough books to them and they are all in very good state. On the capture there is the three books you maybe search. Its SNG but between us im not on greek coins so i may have confused with other books.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on July 21, 2022, 07:38:01 am
See my today's posting in this section of the forum for the link to all the SNG Cop volumes as pdfs on gallica.fr
Title: SNG Delepierre now online @ BnF Gallica
Post by: Anaximander on December 21, 2022, 11:27:47 am
The Gallica website for the Bibliotheque Nationale de France has followed up its scanning and posting of SNG Copenhagen (here (https://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/search/sru?operation=searchRetrieve&version=1.2&maximumRecords=50&collapsing=true&exactSearch=true&query=dc.subject%20adj%20%22Nationalmuseet%20%20Copenhague%20%22#)) with a scan of the first volume of SNG France, best known as SNG Delepierre. The scan appeared on their website in Sept. 2022. (here (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5382840x/f23.item#)). 

You can read SNG Delepierre online, or you can download the PDF, but please know you may have difficulty completing your download in one go (it must be a very large file), but you can download pieces at a time.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Altamura on December 21, 2022, 11:42:15 am
... The Gallica website for the Bibliotheque Nationale de France has followed up its scanning and posting of SNG Copenhagen ...
They meanwhile have also the missing three volumes of SNG Cop and SNG France 2, 3 and 4  :) .

Regards

Altamura
Title: More SNG France now online
Post by: Anaximander on December 21, 2022, 02:42:01 pm
Yes! More SNG France PDF online! 

SNG France 2 BnF Cabinet des Medailles. Cilicie. Edited by Edoardo Levante. (here (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5382801x)) Paris, 1993.
SNG France 3 BnF Cabinet des Médailles. Pamphylia, Pisidia, Lycaonia, Galatia. Edited by Edoardo Levante. (here) (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5382727k). Paris, 1994.
SNG France 4 Département des monnaies, médailles et antiques. Alexandrie. I, Auguste-Trajan. Catalogue by Soheir Bakhoum. (here (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t53828390)) Paris, 1993.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on December 23, 2022, 10:07:39 am
The Paris scans are a wonderful example of the generosity of a large institution and we all owe them a huge debt, especially in view of the often quite high prices of such catalogs. I recently purchased SNG France 5 direct from the Paris Bibliotheque, and I betcha anything that'll be scanned soon...
Now all I need is the Lischine collection of his coins of Thrace.... Probably waaay down on the Paris "Books to be scanned" list.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Kevin D on February 14, 2023, 07:25:35 pm
I also bought the hardcopies of SNG France. Still, I am hoping for a complete run of them as PDFs (I can always sell or donate the hardcopies).

found today:

SNG France. 5, Mysie
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t53839776.r=Sylloge%20nummorum%20graecorum%2C%20France.%205?rk=21459;2#
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Enodia on February 15, 2023, 05:53:32 pm
I only have the Calabria/Etruria volume as it's the only one I need, but they are beautiful and easy to use. It would be nice if all the volumes were available online, but even if they were I'd still keep my hard copy. Books are real, the internet is a temporary convenience at best.

~ Peter
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on February 17, 2023, 10:02:07 am
found today:
SNG France. 5, Mysie
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t53839776.r=Sylloge%20nummorum%20graecorum%2C%20France.%205?rk=21459;2#

See ? What did I say ? This happens so often - I spend my hard-saved pennies on a book and the telepathic gods of numismatics order Paris to scan it..  ;D
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Curtis JJ on February 17, 2023, 10:06:17 am
See ? What did I say ? This happens so often - I spend my hard-saved pennies on a book and the telepathic gods of numismatics order Paris to scan it..  ;D

In that case, if you don't already have them, can you buy SNG von Aulock next? (Or maybe try a duplicate set!) I'd love for BnF or Heidi to do those next!
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Virgil H on February 17, 2023, 05:32:25 pm
I have bought three volumes of SNG Turkey from Forum because of my love of Turkish coins, not because they are super useful. I love books and I wanted them on my shelf and I enjoy looking at them. Plus, I have a few coins that are in them. I do like their layout, as well.

Virgil
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Curtis JJ on February 17, 2023, 08:35:09 pm
I have bought three volumes of SNG Turkey from Forum because of my love of Turkish coins, not because they are super useful. I love books and I wanted them on my shelf and I enjoy looking at them.[...]Virgil
I really like physical copies for their own sake, even if a book is online. Having the books to go with the coins, and coins to go with the books, makes both much better. Of course, I'm extremely grateful for the books that are online since I could never buy everything I want.

I have a disproportionate number of Provincials and Carian, so I've thought about SNG Turkey -- especially Kayhan. So far, though, I think my only SNG is ANS Palestine (the super cheap one everyone has!). I may get Levante or Aulock (if an affordable reprint appears at the same time my budget permits).

As a substitute, I've been working on a set of the ANS series ACNAC (Ancient Coins in North American Collections, which began as Greek Coins in North American Collections).
So far: (1) Norman Davis (softcover); (3) Wheaton College; (5) Jonathan P. Rosen X2 (one signed/inscribed); (6) Arthur Dewing (two vols. w/ slipcase); (7) J. Max Wulfing, Washington U. (Also have Wulfing's RIC Augustus-Hadrian, listed as vol. III, published by Bolchazy-Carducci not ANS.)

Still need: (2) Wulfing's Greek coins; (4) Houghton; (8) Sofaer; (9) Houghton II; (10) Huth. (There's always other stuff to get, so the new ACNAC's have been coming out faster than I can get the old ones!)
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on February 19, 2023, 06:47:49 pm
See ? What did I say ? This happens so often - I spend my hard-saved pennies on a book and the telepathic gods of numismatics order Paris to scan it..  ;D

In that case, if you don't already have them, can you buy SNG von Aulock next? (Or maybe try a duplicate set!) I'd love for BnF or Heidi to do those next!

Actually a coin friend of mine in Berlin was planning to scan the von Aulocks, but then he went to work for a coin dealer in S. Germany, and is now working in England, so he never got round to it. I (or rather, my daughter) scanned a couple of coin image pages for GRPC, but they are all that silly large format, so won't fit on a normal scanner.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Kevin D on February 28, 2023, 04:55:42 pm
Recently added:

SNG France 6.1
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5399135g.r=Sylloge%20nummorum%20graecorum%2C%20France.%206.1?rk=21459;2
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Virgil H on February 28, 2023, 05:56:26 pm
I (or rather, my daughter) scanned a couple of coin image pages for GRPC, but they are all that silly large format, so won't fit on a normal scanner.

I have scanned pages that are larger than my scanner bed before, especially schematics that are always huge. I do multiple scans, usually two, but it may be more. It is a pain, but I then open both (or more) images and put them into one file. It isn't hard, just time consuming.

Virgil
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Anaximander on March 01, 2023, 04:10:34 pm
Quote from: Kevin D
Recently added: 

SNG France 6.1
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5399135g.r=Sylloge%20nummorum%20graecorum%2C%20France.%206.1?rk=21459;2

Thanks!  Kind of you to alert us of that new scan.
Such a large file! 122MB. The downloading... screenshot was taken near the end of its run.
All told, we are over 500MB for the first six volumes.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on March 01, 2023, 08:36:12 pm
I use a pdf editor such as Acrobat OCR and/or NitroPro and first delete all the empty pages between the plates and at the end. Then I use  the Save as Other... function to make the pdf smaller. This does not affect images.
My 1 terabyte G: external harddisk on which I keep all the wildwinds backup of backup files and my pdfs is getting dangerously full, and I have had to move some lesser-important pdfs to my NAS (4-disk disk station/home server), in order to make some room, so shrinking pdfs is a must for me. The results of the Asia Minor volumes:
My SNG France 2 is 47,126 Mb
My SNG France 3 is 47,114 Mb
My SNG France 5 is 39,308 Mb
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on March 09, 2023, 05:35:29 pm
By the way, did anyone else already notice that the SNG France 3 on Gallica appears to be a proof copy ? I have noticed a couple of proof-reader's corrections, for example for Attaleia nos. 224, 225 and 280.
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Altamura on March 10, 2023, 02:40:49 am
I don't see corrections at numbers 224 and 225 :-\.

But for 244 you have one where the correction has been taken over to the online representation:
(under "Cote de l'original reproduit : 1984.727", you have to search a bit for that).

Similar e.g. for 581: https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb417812995

But if you find an error in the online presentation of the BnF and write them, they sometimes correct it. So we don't know what the trigger for the correction has been in theses cases  :-\.

On pdf page 9 (including the white pages  :) ) you find the remark "Don 95-341". Perhaps this means that the book was donated 1995.
In fact they have at the BnF several copies of this book: https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb35805108p
"4-MON-838" was the one used for scanning.

By the way: I didn't find out what the numbers in parentheses after the weight of each coin mean. Do you know?

Regards

Altamura
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: helvetica on March 10, 2023, 06:21:35 pm
The numbers in brackets after the weight are usually the actual Paris numbers, either the number given as "Fonds Général" in individual coin information the gallica website, but in some other works by other authors, they refer to the numbers in the fabulous, old "Inventaires" compiled and hand-written by Babelon, Dieudonné etc back in the 19th century.

A note to Sellers (something that always annoys me): There is no such thing as an "SNG Paris" reference number. It is either "SNG France" nnn, or "Paris" nnn. And ne'er the twain shall meet !
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Joe Sermarini on March 10, 2023, 08:38:29 pm
I use SNG BnF and I use SNG Delepierre (even though the Delepierre collection is in the BnF). I find references to "Paris" that are clearly not from SNG BnF or SNG Delepierre. Some are in older refs. Some seem to identify coins outside the published geographic areas. I suppose they are some sort of museum number. In any case, I do not use them.  For that reason, I would never use "Paris" for SNG BnF (or SNG France).
Title: Re: SNG
Post by: Altamura on March 11, 2023, 01:50:09 am
... The numbers in brackets after the weight are usually the actual Paris numbers, either the number given as "Fonds Général" ...
That's it  :), thank you!

... There is no such thing as an "SNG Paris" reference number. It is either "SNG France" nnn, or "Paris" nnn. ...
Perhaps this is not so clear :-\. On the title page of these books you indeed always find "SYLLOGE NUMMORUM GRAECORUM FRANCE", but what will happen when e.g. Marseille will publish the collection within the SNG?

For the Tübingen collection in Germany you have for example the analogous title "Sylloge Nummorum Deutschland - Münzsammlung der Universität Tübingen", but nobody is speaking of "SNG Deutschland", it is always cited as "SNG Tübingen". It is the same with the Munich collection and the Pfälzer Privatsammlungen.
Here for citation the level below the country is used and then "SNG Delepierre" and "SNG Paris" are not completely wrong  :).

Regards

Altamura