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Author Topic: Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait  (Read 1748 times)

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William J Bligh

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Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« on: February 11, 2005, 03:29:50 pm »
Thoughts on this, anyone? Is it a provincial mint or a barbarous imitative type or what?? He just looks so....WEIRD.

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Re:Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 03:34:33 pm »
 
   Very different / unique for sure.  Not the typical juvenile Marcus Antoninus portrait, where (to me, anyway) he always looks so much like Geta.

  Just right-off the ‘cuff’ so to speak – my gut-reaction is to suspect it’s a provincial & not a barbaric imitation.
  What does the reverse look like?

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Re:Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 03:45:49 pm »
Here's the reverse - Apparently its the 'Securitas Perpetua' type, but the legend is a bit blundered.
Here's a link to the official type on wildwinds.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s6678.html

It's too bad there's a large scratch across the reverse, but the portrait intrigued me enough to pick it up anyways

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Re:Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 04:22:29 pm »
   
    Thanks for showing the reverse, too.
  Yeah – that’s sure different.
  I’m clueless.
  Still have a gut feeling it’s Provincial – but my gut feelings usually prove wrong in these questions it seems.

  I definitely understand your underlying question better now, tho’ – thanks.

  Also for the obverse – the official one (@ WW’s) – shows M. Antoninus as bear-head, draped and cuirassed, right: where yours is laureate.
  Maybe a different (but similar) coin altogether?
 
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Re:Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 04:27:42 pm »
As you suspected, clearly an ancient imitation, combining a rev. of 196/7 AD with blundered legend, with an obv. of 199-200.  Hence the wierd style!  Interesting nevertheless.
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Re:Unusual Caracalla denarius portrait
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2005, 05:53:26 am »
Curtis is of course absolutely correct but to act as an illustration of what he is saying I thought that I owuld include the following coins to the thread. The first coin illustrates the bust from A.D. 199-200 and the second coin illustrates the reverse in question.




And as Curtis indicates this is an interesting coin.
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