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Author Topic: Very Rare Vespasian & Titus year 1 with a Gorgon tetradrachm added  (Read 60117 times)

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Re: Vespasian Mars sestertius & Domitian Wolf denarius added!
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2018, 10:19:47 am »
The wolf and twins denarius is lovely. Stkp

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Re: Vespasian Mars sestertius & Domitian Wolf denarius added!
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2018, 12:02:07 pm »
Thanks!

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Re: Vespasian Mars sestertius & Domitian Wolf denarius added!
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2018, 12:38:52 pm »
Hi Jay,

Nice wolf and twins denarius. :)

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Re: Vespasian Mars sestertius & Domitian Wolf denarius added!
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2018, 01:41:33 pm »
Wow!

Cha-ching, Jay! => both of those new additions are sweet, sweet winners! (congrats)

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Yah, the wolf and twins is definitely cool, but that toned Vespasian is fricken deadly! (amazing eye-appeal)


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Re: Domitian's eagle has landed!
« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2018, 10:54:27 am »
Thanks Stevie!

I haven't always been a fan of Domitian's denarii. The same old Minerva reverse wasn't really doing it for me and I know others found his reverse designs boring. But in the past 2 years I've really taken a liking to his coinage. The portraits are actually some of the finest rendered with a wide variety of looks. When you come to know and understand the subtleties of the Imperial titles and acclamation's there are some real gems to be found.

This one however isn't part of that so-called "boring" Minerva series of coins. I've always wanted one of these for the iconic eagle with spread wings on the reverse and the legend... IVPPITER CONSERVATOR. Minted in 82/3 AD it's part of the monetary reform to increase the fineness of silver back to where it was under Augustus. This one has fantastic toning and although there is a small crack in the flan it doesn't detract from the details. In fact many of the ones I've seen over the years have similar cracks in the flans.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-150795

Sweet!


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Re: Domitian's eagle has landed!
« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2018, 11:11:50 am »
It is a Great coin, Jay,  ;) +++

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Re: Domitian's eagle has landed!
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2018, 01:33:22 pm »
Thanks Q

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Re: Domitian's eagle has landed!
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2018, 01:42:15 pm »
best coin ever i guess  ;D ;D
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Re: Domitian's eagle has landed!
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2018, 03:21:11 pm »
Who's Joe?  ;D

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Re: Very Rare Bruttium Rhegium added
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2018, 11:00:36 pm »
Scooped up this rarity:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-151569

From Bruttium, the city of Regium on the tip of the toe.  Laureate head of Asklepios and on the reverse Hygieia holding serpent.  These come in a variety of weight standards all with the same design.  This one is from the larger and heavier series coming in at 23mm and 6.28g.  Definitely not one you see every day!

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Re: Very Rare Bruttium Rhegium added
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2018, 03:43:43 am »
Wow, that coin rocks! (congrats)

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Hygieia carrying the sweet lil' serpent is a fantastic reverse (very cool)

Man, that coin has huge, rugged eye-appeal ... yah, I'm very jealous of that baby (it would have been very comfy in my ol' collection)


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Re: Very Rare Bruttium Rhegium added
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2018, 05:18:13 pm »
Thanks Steve!

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2018, 11:54:51 pm »

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2018, 04:14:35 am »
Very nice example, I have two examples, both from different dies than yours.

Congrats

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2018, 07:40:09 pm »
Super sweet addition, Jay ... congrats, coin-homie

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2018, 10:17:27 pm »
After looking at your coin again, it appears to be TR P VI. The last numeral is softly struck. Even rarer than the TR P V variant!

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2018, 10:33:58 pm »
How did I miss that?  Copying from the flipGood eye David, thanks!

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2018, 10:36:32 pm »
No problem, sorry I didn't notice it sooner. I was viewing the gallery on my phone last night and missed it. A different story on my laptop tonight!

One caveat: your coin is IMP XI, RIC 447 is IMP XII. Perhaps the last numeral is actually a spacing dot?

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2018, 06:45:43 am »
I had also noticed the apparent inconsistency, assuming that perhaps the faint "I" after "V"was an effect of the photo.

Could it be a mule?

Alberto

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2018, 08:07:54 am »
I had also noticed the apparent inconsistency, assuming that perhaps the faint "I" after "V"was an effect of the photo.

Could it be a mule?

Alberto

Yes, it's perplexing. IMHO, a spacing dot is the likeliest option ... although it's larger than most contemporary denarius spacing dots.

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2018, 09:15:52 am »
Thanks guys. As I told David, in hand it looks like TRP VI, IMP XI, COS X which of course is impossible.  If I'm reading RIC correctly Domitian's denarii jump from TRP V,  IMP VIIII, COS XI to TRP V, IMP XI COS XI.  

TRP VI starts with IMP XII ,COS XII

I'll try and get some alternate photos but here is the auction photo which clearly shows COS X

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2018, 10:08:07 am »
My hunch is that this coin reads as follows: TR P V•, IMP XI, COS XII = RIC 429. A spacing dot ends the obverse legend and the last two COS numerals are worn away. Any other reading would truly be extraordinary. At any rate, that's how it would be attributed if it were in my collection.  

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Re: Domitian Denarius added
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2018, 11:26:13 am »
My hunch is that this coin reads as follows: TR P V•, IMP XI, COS XII = RIC 429. A spacing dot ends the obverse legend and the last two COS numerals are worn away. Any other reading would truly be extraordinary. At any rate, that's how it would be attributed if it were in my collection.  


I agree, it's clearer in the auction picture.

Alberto

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Re: Ephesian Vespasian added
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Re: Ephesian Vespasian added
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2018, 01:44:45 pm »
Sweet addition ... congrats, Jay

Happy Season, my coin-friend

Yah, I always love the oak-wreath examples (the portrait rocks => but I love the cool reverse) ... great coin

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