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Identification Help / Athena with lyre
« Last post by George X on Today at 06:54:20 am »
6.05g 11mm
athena on one side wearing helmet pushed back
lyre shape, N lambda on one side. I ? P on the other , although it is a bit high not centred like the others from kolophon
Roman Provincial Coins / Re: Septimius Severus AE 29 from ??
« Last post by andi89 on Today at 06:00:20 am »
Dear Mark.

Thank you so much for your contribution that solved the puzzle! Even though it is now quite obvious from the legend, I would have never found the solution.
Now I am very happy to have a mysterious and  rather rare piece.

@PeteB: Thanks for your thought.

Kind regards
« Last post by Montmercure on Today at 02:55:31 am »
Your coin without star is from Antioch mint. (Note  :dots3_2: on obverse and reverse)

OCRE lists it as subtype 7:

Pekka K

 +++ ok for the Antioch mint, Rome mint exist also without star (OCRE 33 :

............ but that does not explain the fact of the 6/8 branche's stars ..... if there is an explanation  :-\

Thanks for that bakkar.

Absolutely fascinating. It shows how much understanding can be gained by using modern technology and logical reasoning after an archeological discovery.

One thing stands out for me. Were they actually buried? As they were found inside a dry moat in the ruins of St. Louis Castle in Sidon, wouldn't the bodies have just been thrown into the moat?

It would have been far quicker than digging a huge ditch for them.

And far more practical, if King Louis IX found that due to difficult circumstances he was short of time.
Hi Mauseus, yes, Saloninus, as I understand things, was declared emperor by his troops when he was besieged in Colonia Agrippina by Postumus.  Aparently in under a month, the city and his soldiers turned him over the Postumus and he ended up deceased in the process.  I'm not all that certain it really counts to have just been Emperor of Cologne? ;)

Anyhoo, I also just posted a Cologne-minted Victorinus - because why not?  We're clearly all talking Gallic Empire in this thread this week - lol. 

This is a rather interesting examples with lots of silvering left.  It looks much better in hand, but the light encrustations always look more exaggerated when I photograph this coin.  I tried myriad lighting setups and this was the best I achieved.  IT really is way nicer in-hand.
Identification Help / Re: Coin with countermarks ID
« Last post by Mark Fox on Yesterday at 10:46:47 pm »
Dear Alex S2, Meepzorp, Altamura, George X, and Board,

Identifying the countermarked coin first can be instrumental in uncovering the identit(ies) of the countermark(s).  This is not always possible, of course, but with your coin, Alex, I believe it hails from Syrian Antioch and was struck under Augustus.  For the specific type, the possibilities seem to be:

On Alex's coin, the outline of the emperor's head, plus the first two letters of "IMP," can be seen on the side with the two countermarks.  On the reverse, one of the groups of laurel leaves has miraculously survived the three countermarks and the ravages of time (seen at 12:00 in the photo).  My Augustan attribution (and preference for RPC I 4247b) is based on the shape of said leaves and some of the evidence to follow.   
Now for the countermarks themselves.  The thunderbolt stamp appears to be Howgego 472, known on the following Antiochene coin types of Claudius:

 From Howgego's work, he notes that "since it is paired on one coin with cmk 736 (FVLM), it is almost  certain to be a countermark of XII Fulminata. This is supported by its
 presence in the Brunk hoard, which contained 13 coins with other countermarks  of the legion." 
As for the punch with kufic-like lettering, it is most likely Howgego 695, known again on Anticohene coins, but this time of Augustus:

From Howgego, we have these lengthy comments (comparatively speaking) on the countermark:

"Some of the countermarks were mistakenly engraved in mirror image, e.g. Brunk 117.  'Manou' alternated with 'Abgar' (cmk 696) as the name of the head of the royal line of Edessa, see E. Babelon, 'Numismatique d' Edesse en Mesopotamie', Melanges numismatiques vol.2, 1893, pp.209-96, especially p.240 (pl.3).  It is uncertain which Manou is represented, but the countermark is probably to be dated before AD 115-16 because it was overstamped by cmks 725 and 736 (q.v.; and see p.18).  The countermark thus adds to the sparse evidence for the development of Syriac at Edessa (for which see F. Millar, 'Paul of Samosata, Zenobia and Aurelian: the church, local culture and political allegiance in third-century Syria', JRS 61 (1971), 1-17, at 3, with the references given there)."

Countermark #3 on Alex's coin is likely later than its two companions as it slightly cuts into Howgego 695, but by how much is still uncertain to me.  I initially thought the bust looked a bit like Geta, and perhaps it is, but nothing in Howgego has matched so far.  I will try to let the board know if I stumble on anything of further interest. 

That is all for tonight.

Best regards,   

Mark Fox
Identification Help / Re: Help with Greek AE22
« Last post by Mark Fox on Yesterday at 08:47:09 pm »
Dear Tim M and Board,

I believe this issue from Pergamum with Asclepius's head on the obverse, an eagle perched on a thunderbolt on the reverse, and the name of the magistrate Seleukos (Seleucus) written below the head in the genitive (i.e. "ΣEΛEYKOY" or "of Seleukos") strongly suggests your coin:

Hope this helps!

Best regards,

Mark Fox
FORVM Announcements and Website Help / Re: "504 Gateway Time-out"
« Last post by v-drome on Yesterday at 08:40:39 pm »
I had the same problem last night trying to upload my oil lamp to the discussion board, so I uploaded the picture to my Forum gallery first.  Then uploaded the discussion text.  Then modified the discussion post by adding the same picture with the attachment option, and it worked right away.  (In fact I ended up with the same picture on there twice so I modified it again to remove the extra one!)  I think it was just taking too long to upload the first photo for some reason, which was around 350KB, so something was running slower than usual.  Hope this helps.

Identification Help / Re: Manuel I Trachy?
« Last post by Macerata1 on Yesterday at 08:30:58 pm »
Correct, this is a trachy of Manuel I (SB 1966)
FORVM Announcements and Website Help / Re: "504 Gateway Time-out"
« Last post by Mark Fox on Yesterday at 08:30:13 pm »
Dear Jochen,

I think the problem is tied to the image attachments.  Look at my post in the following thread for my temporary workaround:;topicseen#msg759819

When things are hopefully back to normal, we should be able to modify our posts and attach the images then.

Hope all is well!  It has been a long time since we last wrote.

Best regards,

Mark Fox
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