Author Topic: Eastern denarii of Hadrian (Read 119622 times)

Rupert · « **Reply #175 on:** February 28, 2021, 02:15:49 pm »

Just two posts above, we had PIETAS AUGUS, now here's PAX AUGUS. Unfortunately, I was outbid on this one today. 2.76 g, 19 mm. Not in the new RIC.

Rupert

okidoki · « **Reply #176 on:** April 28, 2021, 06:06:59 am »

Unlisted

Hadrian Denarius Roma 130-38 AD Salus Eastern mint
Reference.
cf RIC II, 267; Strack --; cf C 1331; RIC III, --

Bust A1+

Obv. HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P
Bare head

Rev. SALVS AVG
Salus standing right, holding patera before snake entwined altar

3.10 gr
17 mm
6h

Note.
Published in moneytrend 4, 2008, p. 138f. # 30 (this coin illustrated)

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-170085

maridvnvm · « **Reply #177 on:** April 28, 2021, 06:32:55 am »

The style is so wild on this it makes me wonder where the line would be between official and unofficial for these issues.

okidoki · « **Reply #178 on:** April 28, 2021, 07:12:07 am »

Quote from: maridvnvm on April 28, 2021, 06:32:55 am

The style is so wild on this it makes me wonder where the line would be between official and unofficial for these issues.

i see what you mean Martin, there are more like this crude style
see reply 15 and 16
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=39488.msg297017#msg297017

and this one
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-164266

curtislclay · « **Reply #179 on:** April 28, 2021, 10:25:42 am »

I would regard this coin as not official but an ancient counterfeit, until proof to the contrary can be shown.

okidoki · « **Reply #180 on:** April 28, 2021, 11:44:43 am »

Thank you both, i have mailed it to mister Abdy, i await his responce

okidoki · « **Reply #181 on:** July 17, 2021, 08:13:40 am »

new bust for type

Hadrian Denarius 117-30 AD Roma Eastern mint
Reference.
RIC III, 3068 cf; Strack *41var;

Bust D2

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust, seen from side

Rev. COS III
Roma, seated left on cuirass and shield, holding Victory and cornucopia.

2.42 gr
19 mm
12h

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=171168

quadrans · « **Reply #182 on:** July 17, 2021, 01:39:22 pm »

Nice find, Eric...

Interesting bust variation

Regads

Joe

Rupert · « **Reply #183 on:** July 17, 2021, 01:47:09 pm »

Beautiful coin! I think I have a small correction: The legend seems to be HADRIANUS AUGUSTUS PP, the P's at the end, as often, sloppily engraved and looking like I's. This would make it a variant of RIC² 3068 (3068 has bust type D1, seen from front; yours has D2, seen from the side, which is unlisted in RIC²).

Congratulations from

Rupert

okidoki · « **Reply #184 on:** July 17, 2021, 03:16:08 pm »

yes you are right Rupert forgot the P P

thank you both

okidoki · « **Reply #185 on:** August 08, 2021, 08:12:36 am »

Dear cf,

CORRECTION its RIC 3135

Here we have an unlisted coin, the type is only known with HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P legend, https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=141861 RIC 3133

Reference
Strack --; RIC --

Bust C1

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGUSTUS P P
Laureate, draped bust, viewed from front

Rev. AFRICA
Africa, wearing elephant scalp, reclining left, before basket of fruits, holding scorpion and cornucopia

2.94 gr
20 mm
6h

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=171554

Din X · « **Reply #186 on:** October 29, 2021, 07:41:59 am »

Is this an Eastern mint product?
I bought it but it is still in mail so I will use sellers pictures (I am impatient).
HispaniaRe instead of Hispaniae.
The weight of mine is if we trust seller 2.7g and of the Naumann die match 2,82 so rather low.

The style of this type appears to be more eastern, and the altered reverse legend (Hispaniare rather than Hispaniae) points toward an imitative mistake. Either way, it is very similar to the official Rome product, yet not an exact match.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/115064944554?hash=item1aca67b7aa:g:dFwAAOSwA5FheBjo

Same dies sold as Eastern mint or contemporary imitation of Rome

https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/de/search?text=RIC%20388%20hadrian&companyId=c1228

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4739824

okidoki · « **Reply #187 on:** October 29, 2021, 07:49:28 am »

i would suggest post it here https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=9.0

Din X · « **Reply #188 on:** October 29, 2021, 07:58:57 am »

Quote from: okidoki on October 29, 2021, 07:49:28 am

i would suggest post it here https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?board=9.0

I thought that this coin is authentic even if it might be a ancient Eastern mint product or contemporary imitation.
I collect authentic coins too and I like the stlye and the sloppy letters of this one and it looked fine (fine = authentic) in pictures and the price was much lower than for the Naumann piece so I thought it would be a bargain, too.
But if there is evidence that this coin is fake I would be happy to know because I planned to put it to my authentic coins and I do not like to contaminate my authentic coins with fakes.

shanxi · « **Reply #189 on:** October 29, 2021, 08:07:11 am »

The spelling fault HISPANIARE is also mentioned in RIC (here OCRE)

http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.2_3(2).hdn.3151

unfortunately no picture

Another example was discussed here:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=101891.0

and BTW: Your coin was previously sold in hungary, october 2020

https://axioart.com/tetel/romai-birodalom-roma-hadrianus-117-138-denar-ag-hadria

Din X · « **Reply #190 on:** October 29, 2021, 12:29:21 pm »

Vielen Dank! Thank you very much!
Edit: Arrived

okidoki · « **Reply #191 on:** April 17, 2022, 06:53:36 am »

Dear cf,

Here we have an unlisted, eastern mint, as far as i can see, the reverse is known with Sabina RIC 3198
The obverse die link, can be seen below

Reference.
RIC 3086A; RIC --; Strack --

Bust A1+

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Bare head

Rev. COS III
Star within crescent.

3.26 gr
mm
h

Die link:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=132615

okidoki · « **Reply #192 on:** May 21, 2022, 07:38:31 am »

Dear cf,

Here we have un unlisted eastern minted, the reverse is known RIC 3036, with HADRIANUS AVGVSTVS P P https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=123549
This coin has the same obverse die as RIC 2988, https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=151516

Bust C2+

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS
Bare head, draped bust right, seen from rear

Rev. COS III
Concordia seated left holding patera and resting other arm on statue of Spes at side of throne

3.05 gr
17.5 mm
6h

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=175786

okidoki · « **Reply #193 on:** May 23, 2022, 10:14:16 am »

Dear cf,

Here we have an unlisted bust for the type
bust is very close on RIC 3170 Plate coin
Reference.
RIC 3168A; Strack *73

Bust A2

Obv: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P
Laureate bust with drapery

Rev: ASIA.
Asia stepping on prow left, holding reaping-hook and rudder.

3.06 gr
19 mm
6h

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=175810

Rupert · « **Reply #194 on:** January 30, 2023, 03:40:15 pm »

It's been quite a few silent months in this thread, but now I was lucky again to get the following coin:

Obv. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN H - ADRIANUS AUG
Laureate head right
Rev. COS - III
Libertas with pileus and sceptre
18.5 mm, 2.67 g, die axis 6 o'clock
Not in RIC (2990 with later legend HADRIANUS AUGUSTUS)

Rupert

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