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Resources => Fake Coins and Notorious Fake Sellers => Topic started by: Caesarincarnate on August 16, 2013, 05:38:46 pm

Title: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: Caesarincarnate on August 16, 2013, 05:38:46 pm
hello all. please feel free to offer your usual chastisements about the folly of buying on ebay, but after winning this dekadrachm, I saw a few pages showing the actual value of these coins, and now am pretty certain this is a fake. any opinions are appreciated. thank you
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: Andrew McCabe on August 16, 2013, 06:13:02 pm
hello all. please feel free to offer your usual chastisements about the folly of buying on ebay, but after winning this dekadrachm, I saw a few pages showing the actual value of these coins, and now am pretty certain this is a fake. any opinions are appreciated. thank you

I am sure that a genuine dekadrachm has never been offered on eBay. Nor have certain famous rare tetradrachm types, e.g. the Silenus type from Naxos. Nor a genuine EID MAR. In fact, as a rule of thumb, any coin that normally retails above $50,000, when offered on eBay, is invariably actually a replica worth $5. That's the expectation. One can find $1000 coins on eBay, and occasionally $2k - $5k coins at fixed prices (invariably at double retail), but any more important coin is a $5 replica. I guess, as a replica, it's value might be a bit above $5 - if in nice silver plate and decent style it's worth a bit more; solid silver hallmarked replicas can retail $50. But the starting point is that such an exceptionally desirable type is assumed to be a modern replica. Regardless how nice it looks.
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: Caesarincarnate on August 16, 2013, 06:20:08 pm
I figured as much. thanks very much. a stupid move on my part.
fake coin report?
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on August 18, 2013, 02:35:58 pm
Yes, fake coin report.
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: bpmurphy on August 18, 2013, 03:54:58 pm
hello all. please feel free to offer your usual chastisements about the folly of buying on ebay, but after winning this dekadrachm, I saw a few pages showing the actual value of these coins, and now am pretty certain this is a fake. any opinions are appreciated. thank you

I am sure that a genuine dekadrachm has never been offered on eBay. Nor have certain famous rare tetradrachm types, e.g. the Silenus type from Naxos. Nor a genuine EID MAR.

If I recall correctly when I was at CNG circa 2000/1 we did offer an Eid Mar and a decadrachm on eBay, both genuine.

Barry Murphy
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: Andrew McCabe on August 18, 2013, 05:11:06 pm
hello all. please feel free to offer your usual chastisements about the folly of buying on ebay, but after winning this dekadrachm, I saw a few pages showing the actual value of these coins, and now am pretty certain this is a fake. any opinions are appreciated. thank you

I am sure that a genuine dekadrachm has never been offered on eBay. Nor have certain famous rare tetradrachm types, e.g. the Silenus type from Naxos. Nor a genuine EID MAR.

If I recall correctly when I was at CNG circa 2000/1 we did offer an Eid Mar and a decadrachm on eBay, both genuine.

Barry Murphy

Seems that eBay has changed somewhat!
Title: Re: sicily dekadrachm
Post by: dougsmit on August 18, 2013, 06:57:47 pm
Seems that eBay has changed somewhat!

Most of us have.  In 2000 I bought a lot of coins on eBay because you could find decent items and prices were based on auction results.  Now they reward posting thousands of items even if you sell few so it seems a waste of time to sort through the junk to find coins actually likely to sell.  Today, I generally find a few things of interest at a starting price not above reason but the question is whether we are willing to view page after page of junk and overpriced (10x over?) to find something we might want.  I'd love to see eBay change their fee structure to reward selling things rather than listing them.