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cicerokid:
Well, what do you think?

Same obverse

Same Reverse       = Same coin 1227b

Or is the Obverse NEW
Or is the Reverse NEW  = New Coin

This has big consequences ,

This is really for those with an expert eye ( not necessarily  mine)

HELP PLEASE

NewStyleAmateur

shanxi:
The reverse is IMHO not a die match:

Differences:

- Look on the letters in exerque and their position in relation to the amphora

- The distance between the foot of Artemis an the foot of the owl

- The letters KI  above Artemis are in different positions

- On the left side look for the position of the "ANT" and the position of the leaves of the wreath


Again on the left side: is there an additional letter "I" left of the Σ on the right coin, or is the line part of the wreath ?

cicerokid:
Yes thanks for that I also have my6 doubts about the obverse esp the horse protomes.

I wonder if the famous Lotte and marc? Seldon knew or cared. That thing always bothers me about so called collectors...I see it all the time....what's the point?

djmacdo:
I am sure the reverse dies are different, and I think the obverse dies too, but so close.  They must be by the same die cutter.  In any event, a really nice coin!

cicerokid:

As I explained earlier this coin has in Thompson 1961 there are only 3 tetradrachms known and mine apparently is one of them ( the professional buyers of this coin seemed not to have kept records) which Thompson catalogued as T 1229a. Another T 1229a is in other in St Petersburg Sv 73, 15 HAS ANY ONE GOT A COPY OF SVRONOS and like to send me a photograph of the page. that would be kind and useful.
This probable tiny emission looks like a personal issue. The dating though is uncertain other than late post Sullan and I know nothing of Leukios or Antikrates.

The symbol is the tag team of Demeter and Artemis...which one is which?   What and who is the one on the left and what is she holding ( another torch)?  The one on the right I take to be Artemis with the torch in the role as Artemis the light bringer helping Demeter, the first figure? search for persephone in the underworld.
This is a very fine Eleusinian pairing in the style of the two tyrant slayers Harmodius & Aristogeiton issue early post Sullan issue...

I wonder why Lotte & Mark bought it? They seem to have not done any research on it and kept it close since, presumably purchasing it from commerce (who)....Just like the gold eid mar,keeping it private in the collection of what?>  Random coins it seems the only other NewStyle was a Prow issue...no direct relation other being Athens New Style and as common as muck! Not too particular "fine style neither. What did they see when apparently RANDOMLY BUYING. These were clever people from a well off Jewish refugee family highly educated etc.

If anyone knows why they collected as they did please shed a light on them for me.,

Regards,

John aka NewStyleKing, aka Cicerokid

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