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Offline shanxi

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Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« on: December 19, 2016, 10:41:04 am »
I am unable to find this worn but beautiful coin.

Av: Faustina II, ΦAVCTEINA CEBACTH, Draped bust left.

Rv: Artemis standing right with bow, clasping hands with Apollo (or Hero?)  seen from behind
Legend: ...MNO..(or HNO),   ....O... below

AE, 38.14g, 36mm

the "best match" I found is this Homonoia Issue  from Bizya and Byzantium, nearly one hundred years later.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3295495


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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 12:03:19 pm »
Update:

I think this is much closer.

This is a commodus issue from Hierocaesarea, with an extremely similar reverse

http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/1276/

still looking for Faustina !

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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 12:27:17 pm »
I can read "..POKAI.." in the exergue, so your suggestion
of Hierocaesarea appears correct.
The "..HNO.." part of the legend almost certainly refers to
the name of a magistrate.

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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 12:38:29 pm »
Thankx, so Hieroscaesarea is certain.

For me this is somehow special. I have about 6 or 7 little special collections, among them a: Faustina II, b: Artemis, c: Hierocaesarea  :)

This coins is also not listed in ISEGIM, I will send it to RPC, let´s see what they say about it,

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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 01:12:06 pm »
I am unable to find this worn but beautiful coin.

Av: Faustina II, ΦAVCTEINA CEBACTH, Draped bust left.

Rv: Artemis standing right with bow, clasping hands with Apollo (or Hero?)  seen from behind
Legend: ...MNO..(or HNO),   ....O... below

AE, 38.14g, 36mm

the "best match" I found is this Homonoia Issue  from Bizya and Byzantium, nearly one hundred years later.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3295495


thank you for looking and  for your suggestions and ideas


very nice indeed

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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 07:28:05 pm »
Magistrate apparently Menodoros, recorded as strategos for the second time on a coin of Marcus Aurelius at Hierocaesarea by BMC Lydia p. lix, citing Mionnet:

EΠI CTPA MHNOΔΩPOV B.

...HNO - Δ... is clear at the top of your reverse.
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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2016, 05:56:35 am »
Thank you very much Curtis and Jerome Mairat.   +++


Now we have a complete description:

Lydia, Hierocaesarea
Faustina II
Mènodôros the Second, strategos
Obv.: ΦAVCTEINA CEBACTH, draped bust of Faustina left.
Rev.: [EΠI CTPA M]HNOΔ[ΩPOY B.], [IЄ]POKAI[CAPЄΩN] in exerque; nude hero (Perseus) standing right, seen from the back, Artemis standing left, holding bow, having quiver at shoulder; both clasping hands over lighted altar
AE, 38.14g, 36mm
Ref.: RPC online -, ISEGRIM -


modified December 21.


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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2016, 07:13:10 pm »
Images well received on RPC online: thanks a lot!

Not "Mènodôros, strategos for the second time", but "Mènodôros the Second, strategos"

EΠI CTPA ΜHNOΔΩPOΥ B: by the strategos Mènodôros the Second (Μηνόδωρος βʹ). In other words: Mènodôros, son of Mènodôros (i.e. the strategos' father was also named Mènodôros).

"Mènodôros, strategos for the second time" would have been ΕΠΙ CΤΡΑ ΜHNOΔΩPOΥ TO B = ἐπὶ στρα Μηνοδώρου τὸ βʹ

For info, this magistrate is recorded on RPC online by a single coin (of Marcus Aurelius):
http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/2824/

and in the volume 5a of the Lexicon of Personal Greek Names (LPGN):
http://clas-lgpn2.classics.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/lgpn_search.cgi?id=V5a-50630&style=

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Re: Unpublished Homonoia Issue ??
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2016, 04:08:24 am »
Dear Jerome Mairat,

thank you very much for this detailed and very helpful answer, which is, I am sure, interesting for every collector.

And thank you also for your impressive work on roman provincial coins.



 

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