Voconius

[Numerianus]

[RomaVictor]

I've been looking at this one too and it raised lots of doubts with me. My feeling says: don't buy

[rick fox]

I do not speak French, but it looks like someone asked if this is a reproduction.  Can anyone translate this?

Q:    b elle reproduction malheuresement trop belle pour etre authentique cordialement un archeologue    26-Juil-07

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[areich]

Terrible result from an electronic translation but enough to get the gist of it:

Q: b it reproduction malheuresement too nice for etre genuine warmly an archeologue

A: etes you too extremely. I do not think that to ailler you reason because you not averz PS seen the currency. the scales are clear but sant virgul therefore there is a doubt since there is not comma. enin it was to value by a pro with me assert that it props autentique and that whizz this effect I could signal it in my announcement. what make you say that it is a wrong? Dévolloper your argmentation I veus explanation of, it is too easy to say it is too nice therefore it

Andreas

[curtislclay]

Better translation:

Nice reproduction, but unfortunately too nice to be genuine. Yours, An archaeologist.

You go too far.  I don't think you're right because you haven't seen the coin.  The weight is clear but only to the nearest gram and I can't specify the tenths of a gram.  But I had the coin authenticated by a professional who assured me it was genuine and said I could quote him in my description.  What makes you say it is fake?  Give reasons, I'd like an explanation, it's too facile to just say the coin is too nice to be authentic.  You see what I am getting at.

[Robert_Brenchley]

A Victorinus/Gallienus hybrid is a bit surprising! All I can say is, the style of both faces looks OK. Two people between them appear to have triggered a bidding frenzy.

[AlexB]

Hi

I dont know about these 2 coins but I do know that I read recently of a large number of these silver 'Augustus' coins coming to the market - all fake.

I think at another site will try and find.

Alex

[mauseus]

Hi,

It is just not possible to pair the Victorinus obverse with the Gallienus reverse, two different mints for a start. They are certainly of official style for each of the mints and I suspect that there is a photo mix up (the flans are slightly different shape and the vendor is selling quite a few similar coins and with his attempt at numbering the obverse and reverse of the coin the way he does I'm not surprised he's mis matched them).

Regards,

mauseus

[Numerianus]

It is just not possible to pair the Victorinus obverse with the Gallienus reverse, two different mints for a start. They are certainly of official style for each of the mints and I suspect that there is a photo mix up (the flans are slightly different shape and the vendor is selling quite a few similar coins and with his attempt at numbering the obverse and reverse of the coin the way he does I'm not surprised he's mis matched them).
mauseus

For sure! I was wondering that some collectors did not notice this obvious mix-up...
And 250 EUR for a crying fake...   

[Robert_Brenchley]

That's what I was thinking, Mauseus, but my wife needed the computer, and I didn't have time to check where the Gallienus was minted. Given that the two empires were at war, I felt the combination was impossible on basic principles!

[Falderal]

Given that the two empires were at war, I felt the combination was impossible on basic principles!

They were on opposite sides of the coin... 

It never ceases to amaze me what you guys catch here.

[Joe Sermarini]

I was thinking the Victorinus/Gallienus was amazing.  I was frustrated that I couldn't explain it - looks so genuine but also impossible.  But I forgot something that we must remember whenever we look at coins on the web - we aren't looking at coins, we are looking at photos.  I should have realized these are photos of genuine coins, but two genuine coins.   Thanks for pointing that out mauseus.   I feel better. 

[Ilya Prokopov]

The coin is fake.Published in Prokopov I. and R. Manov. Counterfeit studios and their coins. Sofia 2005, p. 60, no. 77."