Marcus and Lucius

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

Hello!
which province made coins with M.Aurelius bust on obv and L.Verus bust in rev or viceversa?
Thanks

[ancientone]

Hello,  Here is one example. I'm pretty sure there are more.

Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus. AE23 of Berytos, Phoenicia. 161-169 AD. IMP CAES M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG COL, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust of Marcus Aurelius right / IMP CAES L AVREL VERVS AVG BER, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust of Lucius Verus right. SNG Cop 104.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/marcus_aurelius/_berytos_AE23_BMC_111.jpg

[archivum]

You can run your own search for this pairing on http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/advanced/.

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

three options:

Perinthus
Berytus
Nicomedia

which one hasn't countermark?
Can i understand from  countermark type the province of coinage?

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

having laureated busts, i think the solution is:

Temporary Number   6760
City; Province; Region   Berytus; Syria; Phoenicia
Date   161–169
Obverse design   laureate-headed bust of Marcus Aurelius wearing cuirass and paludamentum, r.
Obverse inscription   IMP CAES M AVREL ANTONINVS AVG COL (all As shaped as Λ)
Reverse design   laureate-headed bust of Lucius Verus wearing cuirass and paludamentum, r.
Reverse inscription   IMP CAES L AVREL VERVS AVG BER (all As shaped as Λ)
Metal   Bronze
Average diameter   24 mm
Average weight   12.18 g
Average die-axis   12
Type reference   Sawaya 1222-32, Rouvier 541(2), BMC 111-12, Cop 104


When i will have my camera with me i will make some pictures and show them, expecially to discuss about the countermark. It reppresents a little femail head, profile. Fascinating...

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

I have problems with the camera

[areich]

Did you turn on the macro mode?
Do you use a copy stand or a tripod?

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

Ok better pictures
the countermark seems a female head... or not?

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

any idea? what can we say from the countermark?

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

best countermark picture... a head?

[Steve Minnoch]

I don't think your coin is a match for the one from RPC, it looks nothing like it.

Steve

[areich]

Actually the smaller picture is better.
Surely a head right though I find it hard to tell who it could be and even if it's male or female (I'd lean towards female though).

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

so how can i proceed?

[Steve Minnoch]

Presuming the 24mm is the size of your coin, I'd lean towards the Nicomedian issues.  There is punctuation on some of those (as shown on your coin) and the lettering style is sophisticated enough to lean rather more west than Berytus.

Steve

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

ok i'll try to study towards Nicomedian issues