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Author Topic: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?  (Read 1126 times)

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Offline Ron C2

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I was really pleased to add this coin to my collection lately, it actually just got here late yesterday.  I'd been chasing a high grade example of this coin for several years now, and finally came across the right one at a price I could live with.  RIC 520a, a VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius struck for Septimius at Laodicea

All-text reverses are quite uncommon on Septimius Severus denarii and this one is really so much nicer condition than any other example I have considered acquiring these past few years (a sample size of only 3 coins, including this one).  Really pleased with this acquisition, and it has good provenance back to at least 2016 through a couple of the big auction houses.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=170916

I was wondering who else here has an example of this coin?  Any pics to share?  Or perhaps a similar denarius coin? 

I know votis style coins are pretty common on LRBs, but not so much on Severan era denarii :)
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 06:19:56 pm »
Hi RC,

Nice coin! :)

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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2021, 06:22:20 am »
very nice this denarius Ron C2

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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2021, 09:40:52 am »
Hi Ron

Excellent coin!

Here's a specimen from Severus Alexander's reign.   Prayers for twenty years of rule...he didn't quite make it.  I'd love to get the bronze sestertius of this but it is very rare.
Lots of other examples in later years.   Aemilianus reign had a votis for 10 years and he only reigned for three months.   
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2021, 10:24:03 am »
Hi Ron

Excellent coin!

Here's a specimen from Severus Alexander's reign.   Prayers for twenty years of rule...he didn't quite make it.  I'd love to get the bronze sestertius of this but it is very rare.
Lots of other examples in later years.   Aemilianus reign had a votis for 10 years and he only reigned for three months.

Great coin!

Do you know if there were votis decennalibus coins prior to the Severans?
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2021, 11:33:57 am »
Yours is a very nice example Ron, congratulations.

Here's my example.


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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2021, 01:36:40 pm »
That's also a really great example!!
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2021, 03:49:23 pm »
Do you know if there were virus decennalibus coins prior to the severans?

I didn't find any examples but maybe the experts...?   Votis legends on coins became a thing after the Severans though
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2021, 04:41:46 pm »
Do you know if there were virus decennalibus coins prior to the severans?

I didn't find any examples but maybe the experts...?   Votis legends on coins became a thing after the Severans though

Definitely. By the tetrarchy, they were really common. I do know of a Boris sestertius under Marcus Aurelius, but not a decennalibus.
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2021, 05:47:37 pm »
I only have that type in base metal




but I do have this type....

Obv:– L S-EPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, Laureate head right
Rev:– VOTIS DECENNALIBVS, Septimius, togate and veiled, standing left sacrificing over tripod
Minted in Laodicea-ad-Mare. A.D. 202
Reference:– RIC IV 519; BMCRE 680; RSC 796. 2 exampled in RD so relatively scarce.

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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2021, 06:13:43 pm »
How about a later bronze?
Gordian III. 238-244 AD. Æ Sestertius. (31mm; 20.36 gm; 11h). Rome mint, 3rd-6th officinas. Special emission, 239 AD. Obv: Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right. Rev: VOTIS/DECENNA/LIBVS/S C in four lines within laurel wreath. RIC IV 263a; Banti 132.
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2021, 06:28:20 pm »
I only have that type in base metal




but I do have this type....

Obv:– L S-EPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, Laureate head right
Rev:– VOTIS DECENNALIBVS, Septimius, togate and veiled, standing left sacrificing over tripod
Minted in Laodicea-ad-Mare. A.D. 202
Reference:– RIC IV 519; BMCRE 680; RSC 796. 2 exampled in RD so relatively scarce.

D of DECENNALIBVS corrected from E



Great coins. What is the base metal of the first one? Bronze? Would you consider it a limes?
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2021, 03:45:43 pm »
It is bronze. I have it labelled as limes/fouree core.
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2021, 06:05:54 pm »
It is bronze. I have it labelled as limes/fouree core.
Regards,
Martin

Thanks Martin.  I've not seen an AE version of this coin that was not at one time silvered as a limes/fouree, so must have been made that way and not someone silvering a less valuable AE denomination

I wish we had a better understanding of the limes denarii.  Yours looks good enough to have been an official strike somewhere :)
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2021, 04:06:30 pm »
Great PRIMI DECEN coin there.  Based on the weight and other stats, I'm assuming an AR Denarius

My Latin is not what it should be, but I think the difference between VOTIS and PRIMI coins is that VOTIS coins demonstrate an emperor's devotion to another 10 years of service, while a PRIMI coin celebrates the completion of a 10 year period of rule - likely logged by years of power as the imperator.

Someone here likely knows for sure?
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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2021, 11:55:57 am »
Here are mine:

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Re: VOTIS DECENNALIBVS denarius - any other examples out there to show?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2021, 01:12:42 pm »
Nice coins Septimus :)

I'm still looking for a nice RIC 519.
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