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Author Topic: Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion  (Read 2963 times)

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Offline Baccus

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Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion
« on: April 28, 2021, 12:00:15 pm »
This dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion (AE. 49.22 g. 41.00 mm) has been condemned with an IBSCC report after his first appearance in an auction in 2015 (Busso Peus auction 414, lot 204). Despite this condemnation the coin resurfaced recently in another auction (Artemide auction 55, 25 April 2021, Lot 463) and has been sold but then withdrawn shortly after when the info of the IBSCC report spread around.
I think that would be important to save the photo in fake coin reports in order to avoid further sale tentative in some years from now.

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Re: Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 09:14:09 pm »
If you think a fake coin report should be filed (and I agree), please submit one. No permission is required and any member can submit it.
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Re: Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2021, 04:27:13 am »
What kind of fakes are they supposed to be?

Modern hand cut dies?
Or transfer die fakes?
Or recut transfer die fakes?


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Re: Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2021, 04:36:31 am »
The Medaillon picture number 2 has imho an authentic patina but smoothed and so must be authentic, it is from the same dies but on reverse are minor differences (the identical details are too many that these could be different dies, number and position of dots of dotted border and shape, size and position of letters).
So either this medaillon picture 2 was tooled or the other medaillons in this post are recut transfer die fakes.

Picture 1 in original frame
Picture 2 same dies but small differences on reverse (tooling Cornucopia, robe etc ?), or this one is authentic and all others in this post are recut transfer die fakes?
Picture 3, the coin from Baccus post
Picture 4 another one possibly authentic
Picture 5 from fake reports                
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-16078




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Re: Dangerous forgery of a Marcus Aurelius Medallion
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 04:41:31 am »
I have only found 2 in Museum collections with different obverse die and reverse die is very similar likely not identical


https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_1872-0709-395


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https://archive.org/details/imedaglioniroman02gnec/page/n211/mode/2up

 

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