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Title: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: okidoki on June 03, 2021, 02:49:15 pm

Dear cf,

Here we have odd Hadrian, it does not look Ancient more like 1900 copy
odd flan crack

legend incorrect
PONT MAX TR POT CO IIII

RIC 249; Strack 533 RIC 561a; Copper 22,69 g.; Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIANVS HADRIANVS AVG - Laureate head right. Rev: PONT MAX TR POT COS III Exe: SC -
 Jupiter seated left, holding Victory and scepter.

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: Ron C2 on June 03, 2021, 04:53:20 pm

By my count it's POT CO IIIII, not IIII.  So they used IIIII instead of V.  Can;t say I've ever seen that on a real Hadrian sestertius...

Not sure it's even 19th century, and definitely not as good as a typical Paduan.  Possibly a more modern fake.

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: shanxi on June 03, 2021, 05:10:05 pm

See Stack's Bowers, January 11-12, 2013

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1484822

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: Dominic T on June 03, 2021, 06:01:24 pm

Quote from: shanxi on June 03, 2021, 05:10:05 pm

See Stack's Bowers, January 11-12, 2013

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1484822

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: Joe Sermarini on June 03, 2021, 06:54:13 pm

Fake coin report please.

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: maridvnvm on June 04, 2021, 07:59:47 am

I was about to post with regards to the same example but to add to is a whole host of additional context. I suspect that this is entirely modern. The same venus has a whole host of other concotions that all appear to be entirely modern in their creation. I know that the rules are that we should limit to one coin per thread but in this case I would like to break this rule as wider context of seeing other coins being sold together is useful.

In conjunction with these are a whole host of other well known fakes which I would also like to include for additional context.

Here are a few more examples that appear to be entirely modern.

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: maridvnvm on June 04, 2021, 08:03:55 am

More

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: maridvnvm on June 04, 2021, 08:12:47 am

Other known fakes in the same sale include

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: maridvnvm on June 04, 2021, 08:15:25 am

and more

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: maridvnvm on June 04, 2021, 08:18:14 am

There are others such as Paduan after casts with no mention that they are cast of Paduans.

There are some which are either heavily tooled of engraved from scratch. For these more questionable examples I might start their own threads to allow individual discussion but thought adding these here to provide context around the OP was of benefit.

I plan to add fake reports for all those above.

Regards,
Martin

Title: Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
Post by: Joe Sermarini on June 04, 2021, 08:55:08 pm

Thanks Martin.