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Chanhyun S

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is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« on: January 22, 2023, 02:18:55 am »
I just won this on ebay and didn't expect to win. I need some help please.
I paid 192 USD including shipping. :GreeK_Sigma:

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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2023, 07:41:00 am »
What does it weight?

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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2023, 08:38:28 am »
Weight and diameter at widest point, thickness, shot of the edge of the coin in a couple places would all be helpful.

A word to the wise, don't buy off eBay unless you are expert enough to detect fakes and ask for enough photos and information to determine that.
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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2023, 03:59:19 pm »
Thank you for the replies. I admit, I should have been more careful.
16.2 g.


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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2023, 05:13:57 pm »
It's about a gram light compared to the average weight. It's also a small flan, but that happens in real ones.

There's something odd about the style of the owl, and it has a bit of a porous surface.

I'm not an expert on these, but I see enough that bothers me that I would likely not have pulled the trigger.

Have you looked at the fakes gallery for die matches?
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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2023, 03:14:28 am »
... There's something odd about the style of the owl, and it has a bit of a porous surface. ...
In my eyes the style matches perfectly with the owls on folded flans made in the fourth century BC.
See John H. Kroll, "The Reminting of Athenian Silver Coinage, 353 B.C.", Hesperia 80(2), 2011, S. 229-259:   https://www.academia.edu/1974933

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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 03:21:03 am »
On ebay at the moment.

If someone can not make further new pictures of the coin for example the edge, then there is a high chance that this person is not owning the coin.
Exception he ordered it but hast not received it so far.

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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2023, 07:28:02 am »
Good chance the post is a shill advertising scheme based in that eBay ad.
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Re: is this Athenian owl coin authentic?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 01:19:26 pm »
Too fishy. The name registered does not exist in the USA according to the Spokeo.

For an article on the type see Pi-Style in NumisWiki.
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