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Offline KnightNZ

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Ring ID -- Help!
« on: November 12, 2022, 02:08:30 am »
Hi guys,

New member looking to find out more about this ring. Here's what I know:

- Purchased in Dubai
- Came from a museum auction
- Advertised as 'Byzantine' in the catalogue (is this likely?)
- High gold content
- Inner diameter is 17mm, so reasonably sized

I'm not hugely familiar with ancient rings, but wanted to try and get a little more information about this piece. The centre 'stone' is actually a bead made from banded agate (can see the hole in the pictures) and is loose set. -- Shaking the ring means that it is free to move about. Beautiful filigree motif on the band, which resembles a grape vine.

Thoughts/comments/information much appreciated. 

Thanks! :)


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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2022, 02:54:01 am »
Thinking it's more likely Etruscan?

- The stone/Egyptian influence
- The filigree work
- The granulation (to make the grapes)
- Sheet gold construction. Thin and hollow...

Could be well off the mark here... Not sure.


 

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2022, 08:28:03 am »
Welcome to Forum.  People are weary of clicking an external link.  If you can, post the picture in the thread for more eyes.

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2022, 03:52:35 pm »
Ahh sorry about that.

Here you go! -- Not sure how to insert into the post, but have attached at the bottom... Cheers.


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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2022, 07:02:15 pm »
You got it as far as attaching images. I do not know about rings, but that one is quite beautiful. Someone here will know and give you more info.

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2022, 09:02:02 pm »
You got it as far as attaching images. I do not know about rings, but that one is quite beautiful. Someone here will know and give you more info.

Virgil

Thanks! -- Yes it's gorgeous. Doesn't look Byzantine from my limited knowledge of these things...

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2022, 04:37:37 pm »
There must be someone here with some information...  ???

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2022, 07:36:10 pm »
It is very unlikely to be Etruscan. I believe it is likely Byzantine era from the eastern Med. 
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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2022, 07:49:21 pm »
Thanks for the insight -- Are you able to tell me more about your thinking?

Also potential value? Seems like a nice piece regardless of the era it was crafted.

Thanks so much :)

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2022, 08:02:33 pm »
For my own information, I'd love some other examples to compare it to as well... if that's possible. Keen to learn as much as possible!

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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 10:29:33 am »
Thanks for the insight -- Are you able to tell me more about your thinking?

Also potential value? Seems like a nice piece regardless of the era it was crafted.

Thanks so much :)

Etruscan antiquities are MUCH rarer than Byzantine and I have no idea why you might think it is Etruscan.

It looks similar to other Byzantine era gold jewelry that I have seen.

We do not discuss values here.
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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 03:15:45 pm »
Thanks for the insight -- Are you able to tell me more about your thinking?

Also potential value? Seems like a nice piece regardless of the era it was crafted.

Thanks so much :)

Etruscan antiquities are MUCH rarer than Byzantine and I have no idea why you might think it is Etruscan.

It looks similar to other Byzantine era gold jewelry that I have seen.

We do not discuss values here.

Ok, thanks.

Would you be able to suggest some reading for me to do? I would like to familiarise myself with other examples, if possible. This is all very interesting to me. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 03:18:52 pm »
It also look Byzantine to me but I don't have anything to base it on!

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2022, 03:06:19 pm »
You can find a list of references at the bottom of our shop's jewelry page.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1600
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Re: Ring ID -- Help!
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2022, 02:11:52 pm »
Ave!

As the ring was source from Dubai (Middle East), Byzantine makes more sense.
It could also be Ottoman, but with the grapes and vines motif, less likely...but you never know.

Definitely not Etruscan. See the image below.

Not sure if any of you know this, but one of the real mysteries of Etruscan ring construction is not just how such infinitesimally tiny
gold balls were made in the first place, but how they were actually adhered to the ring itself. Etruscan magic?
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