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Offline David Atherton

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A Unique Domitian Denarius
« on: May 23, 2016, 08:44:12 am »
I was very happy to receive this previously unrecorded Minerva type from Domitian's sixth issue of denarii for 85. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-129207

If anyone is aware of other examples please let me know!




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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 12:16:39 pm »
You have good luck   +++ :) ;) :angel:

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 12:41:35 pm »
Great find indeed.

Congrats!

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 12:52:23 pm »
 +++  Unicum 
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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 01:47:57 pm »
Nice catch David. Congrats!

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 08:03:18 pm »
Thanks everyone for the kind comments. This was quite an exciting coin to research!

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2016, 05:58:49 am »
Congratulations David on acquiring such a rarity.

Looking at the Minerva reverse I am taken by it's engaging feeling of solidity. It has a sculptural look of a kind that I am sure I have seen before. The famous statue of Zeus enthroned that you see on Macedonian tetradrachms comes to mind. I believe the best of those tets are so convincing because they were derived from a statue that existed at the time, the Phidias Zeus at Olympia. Made by a great artist it provided design reference points that the die engraver could use as a guide while creating their own low relief sculpture in miniature.

The casual way Minerva holds the thunderbolt is a quiet reminder of her power as a Goddess. Brilliant. I did an internet search and have a  candidate for a model the die engraver may have been aware of. The Athena Hope-Farnese was found near Naples and is in the Naples Museum. The arms and helmet decoration have been restored. The second version is in the William Randolph Hearst Collection. Athena Hope-Farnese is believed to be a  Roman copy of a Greek original by Pyrrhos of the school of Phidias from the 5th BC.

As the original hands are missing it is hard to know what she may have been causally holding. An owl, Winged Victory or thunderbolt?

Best regards,

Steve

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 08:04:41 am »
Quote from: gallienus1 on May 24, 2016, 05:58:49 am
Congratulations David on acquiring such a rarity.

Looking at the Minerva reverse I am taken by it's engaging feeling of solidity. It has a sculptural look of a kind that I am sure I have seen before. The famous statue of Zeus enthroned that you see on Macedonian tetradrachms comes to mind. I believe the best of those tets are so convincing because they were derived from a statue that existed at the time, the Phidias Zeus at Olympia. Made by a great artist it provided design reference points that the die engraver could use as a guide while creating their own low relief sculpture in miniature.

The casual way Minerva holds the thunderbolt is a quiet reminder of her power as a Goddess. Brilliant. I did an internet search and have a  candidate for a model the die engraver may have been aware of. The Athena Hope-Farnese was found near Naples and is in the Naples Museum. The arms and helmet decoration have been restored. The second version is in the William Randolph Hearst Collection. Athena Hope-Farnese is believed to be a  Roman copy of a Greek original by Pyrrhos of the school of Phidias from the 5th BC.

As the original hands are missing it is hard to know what she may have been causally holding. An owl, Winged Victory or thunderbolt?

Best regards,

Steve

Thanks Steve for the kind words. The period the coin was struck was one of high artistic style for the denarius, as you certainly recognised.

I assume the four Minerva designs repeated over and over again on the coinage were fairly standard well known types which were copied all throughout the Roman world. Your posted Minervas are marvellous examples of such and demonstrate that quite clearly!

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Re: A Unique Domitian Denarius
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2016, 10:41:53 am »


Amazing David, Congratulations!!

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