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Offline Simon

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S-1933 or S-1945
« on: December 27, 2015, 10:12:14 pm »

I purchased this coin at auction as a John II Tetarteron S-1945, I disagree with its attribution, I see it as an Alexius Sear -1933 however, the coin has several interesting aspects to it ,regardless of it being either coin it is very off weight. The John II coin is rarely off weight , more around 3.5 to 4.5gm , this coin has a very strange flan and it cuts off the most important tell tale sign of the difference between the two coins, The emperor holds a labarum on the Alexius version but the John II coin he holds a scepter cruciger. The style and legend are my reasons from reattributing the coin. Its condition is very Fine regardless of the off strike.

If I am correct I will hold examples of this coin from 1g 2.7gm, 3.1gm and 4.9gm. I have also seen but do not own an example that was 5.44.gm .Regional coin issues of especially Alexius seem to vary, I am really starting to believe these coins were not a fixed denomination but based on weight



1933 ALEXIUS TETARTERON S-1933 DOC43 CLBC 2.4.9 

 
OBV Full Length figure of Christ bearded and nimbate wearing tunic and kolobion; holds Gospels in l. hand.

 REV Full length figure of Emperor wearing stemma, divitision, and wearing jeweled loros of simplified type;( holds in r hand labarum on long shaft) and in l. gl.cr.

 Size 22.00

 Weight 1.25gm

 This coin and S-1934 I believe were minted in Cyprus, these coins were once very rare but recently they have been hitting the market much more frequently. Most of these offerings are coming from Cyprus dealers.

 DOC Lists 1 example not in their collection. Weight 2.44gm and size 18mm 
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Offline Strategos

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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 12:55:14 am »
1933
Legend: [+ALE] ZI :Greek_omega_small:  :Greek_Delta: EC

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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 05:26:53 am »
I agree with Strategos.
The legent leaves no doubt its Alexius.

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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 10:40:40 am »
Thank You Gentlemen, I was not in doubt, but I really appreciate the feedback . Especially since I brought this up with the dealer and they disagreed.

Happy Holidays to you both.

Simon
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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 11:51:36 am »
Please use SBCV, instead of S- or Sear. It will link to NumisWiki allowing the reader unfamiliar with Sear's Byzantine Coins and Their Values to identify the reference by clicking the blue text link.  
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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 12:29:09 pm »
Understood, will do for future posts.
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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 04:16:38 pm »
Thanks.
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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 04:04:37 am »
Very good coin simon  +++
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Re: S-1933 or S-1945
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 02:36:42 pm »
Nice pickup Simon.  I was so tempted to grab that one, but ended up passing on it.  Now, I am envious  ;D

 

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