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Forum numizmatyki antycznej po polsku / Re: Severina

« Last post by DzikiZdeb on Today at 04:56:12 am »

Quote from: Waldemar S on Yesterday at 02:10:22 pm

spotkałem się z tekstem A. Krawczuka że Severina rządziła i biła monety między III- IX 275r. ? a nie po jego śmierci IX-XI 275 r. ? , a augustą została już jesienią 274 r. i matką obozów ,senatu i ojczyzny. Może więc Aurelian skoro mieli już córkę zostawił ją z częścią wojska w jakiejś prowincji by pilnowała porządku , a sam poleciał w innym miejscu ratować świat ? .

Jakoś Krawczuka omijam szerokim łukiem - za mało tam rzetelnej krytyki źródeł, często przepisuje całe fragmenty "jak leci" i potem wychodzą takie kwiatki. Sam fakt przyznania tytułu Augusty nie sprawia, że ta czy inna cesarzowa zaczyna mieć coś do powiedzenia w kwestii realnej władzy. Czy mamy jakieś ślady większego wpływu Plotyny na decyzje Trajana po 105 czy Sabiny na Hadriana po 128? Nie bardzo...

Tak więc nijak się te rządy i samodzielne monety za życia Aureliana nie trzymają kupy. Wcześniejsza data śmierci - też. Mamy tetradrachmy aleksandryjskie z 7 roku panowania (czyli wybite po 29 sierpnia 275), a jeden z papirusów z Oksyrynchos (nie szukałem dokładnie, który) jest datowany na 19 października 275 i odnosi się o Aureliana jako do władcy (a więc jeśli nawet Aurelian już wtedy nie żył, to informacja o tym była na tyle świeża, że nie zdążyła dotrzeć do Egiptu).

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7836075

Quote from: Waldemar S on Yesterday at 02:10:22 pm

Dziwnym też jest że nikt z wysokich rangą żołnierzy z otoczenia Aureliana nie chciał przywdziać purpury ?

Może właśnie Seweryna zapobiegła temu, by tron (przynajmniej lokalnie) objął morderca Aureliana - Mucapor lub ktoś inny i na tym polegała jej władza. Utrzymać porządek w armii męża, dopóki senat nie obwoła nowego cesarza?

Tu jeszcze dobry tekst na temat: https://ric.mom.fr/en/info/hist5

Identification Help / Re: Greek Coin Identification!

« Last post by Altamura on Today at 04:49:26 am »

Quote from: shanxi on Today at 03:28:45 am

... There are a few coins with Athena and rose. ...

These are all probably from Antioch on the Maeander, on this specimen you can read the legend: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4722026

But I have no better idea for the coin here.
There is a type from Seleucia on the Calycadnus resembling the coin here a bit: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85330039
but also no exact match, the plant looks too different

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Regards

Altamura

Identification Help / Re: Greek Coin Identification!

« Last post by shanxi on Today at 03:28:45 am »

Quote from: Meepzorp on Today at 01:50:44 am

The obverse looks like Athena or Mars.

There are a few coins with Athena and rose.

"Wrongly ?" attributed to Rhodes by the sellers, but without reference:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6785466
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5166290

or this from Soloi-Pompeiopolis
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4895314

but none of them is a perfect match, so I'm not convinced

Greek Coins / Re: Phillip III Arrhidaeus

« Last post by Virgil H on Today at 03:12:32 am »

Hmm, I never thought of that. I have no experience with fourees, so I don't know. It isn't super obvious to me if it is. That spot on the back is definitely something I have wondered about. Also, this coin is also, to me, a bit unnatural looking, but I have no other silver coins that size and with the relief this one has. The photo doesn't really convey that. It is a pretty coin. I just am not sure how to tell if it is plated, if it is, that has held up well over the centuries, assuming it is actually ancient. Honestly, this is one coin I have always thought might look to good to be true. But, like I said, I have no experience with coins this size with this level of detail. I realize I haven't said very much here. This is a coin I have looked at a lot and wondered about. And I have nothing I can compare it to in my collection. LOL.

Thanks,
Virgil

Greek Coins / Re: Phillip III Arrhidaeus

« Last post by Altamura on Today at 02:43:06 am »

Could it be a fourrée?
On the reverse you have this black hole in the middle and some damages near the edge at about five and six o'clock looking as if some parts of a plating had detached there.

Regards

Altamura

Identification Help / Re: Help identifying greek coin

« Last post by Altamura on Today at 02:31:41 am »

I also would say it is the Herakles/Apollo type from Sardes:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9777859
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7647679
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5768960

You see on the top of the reverse the head of Apollo and the Σ from the legend ΣΑΡΔΙΑΝΟΝ on the right and the first letter of some magistrate's name on the left.

Regards

Altamura

Ancient Coin Forum / Re: Forum purchase o' the day

« Last post by quadrans on Today at 02:11:42 am »

Nice find …👍🤗

Joe

Weights and Scales / Re: Arabic Kufic? Inscription on 1/6 Dirham Weight from Caesarea Maritima

« Last post by v-drome on Today at 02:08:15 am »

Hi, all. Here is another very tiny 1/6 Dirham weight with an incomplete inscription in two lines, in a circular punch. It is beautifully preserved with a black patina (and difficult to photograph). Again, I am adding a mirror image in case it has been stamped in reverse. I have been studying Richard Plant's book on Arabic Coins, but I am still at a loss beyond the very basics. Is it correct to call these Kufic? I know there is not much to go on, but any ideas or corrections as to meaning and date would be appreciated. Holland's book and article illustrate a number of inscribed weights, mostly small sizes, but I could not match any of them to this particular one. Thanks, again, Jimi Berlin (V-drome).

BCC BW26
Islamic Bronze Weight
Caesarea Maritima 1/6 Dirhem
Uncertain Date
Obv: Incomplete Arabic inscription in two lines, stamped in
relief in a circular border within an incuse circular punch-mark.
Rev: Blank. Flat, rhombic prism cut from a thin sheet of metal.
No exact parallels to this inscription were identified in Holland,
"Weights and Weight-Like Objects from Caesarea Maritima", ch.8,
or in Holland, "Islamic Bronze Weights from Caesarea Maritima, ANSMN 31 (1986)".
AE 7.0 x 5.0 x 1.5mm. Wt: 0.47gm.
Surface find, Caesarea Maritima, 1977

Edit: The reversed photo could (possibly???) show the start of the inscription معير واف ,
(maeir waf) which translates as "a complete standard". cf. BCC BW7 and
Holland, ANSMN 31 (1986) #448
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=103167