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Antiquities Discussion Forums => Fibulae and Clothing Items => Topic started by: Joe Sermarini on July 10, 2017, 04:14:48 pm

Title: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on July 10, 2017, 04:14:48 pm: (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/coins2/12193q00.jpg)
197.5g, 81.8mm largest external diameter

I bought this a few years back from the estate of an ancient coin cleaner. Along with thousands of Roman coins uncleaned and cleaned, there was a box full of metal objects, presumably purchased from the same people who sold him the uncleaned coins. Presumably from Eastern Europe, probably Bulgaria. The box included the usual belt stiffeners and buckles, Roman keys and lock parts, weights, and miscellaneous hunks of metal. This bracelet was in the box. I know nothing of this type of bracelet, even if it is ancient, medieval, or modern. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Mayadigger on July 23, 2017, 08:43:51 pm: Ave Joe.

Here are a matched pair of Hallstett Culture Wrist Torcs, c. 8th-6th Cent. BC, similar to yours.

Copper alloy; each at 65mm/26.0gm

Con/ sound and wearable but still encrusted.

The Hallstatt culture was the predominant Western and Central European culture in Early Iron Age Europe from the 8th to 6th centuries BC, developing out of the Urnfield culture of the 12th century BC (Late Bronze Age) and followed in much of its area by the La Tène culture. It is commonly associated with Proto-Celtic and Celtic populations in the Western Hallstatt zone and with (pre-) Illyrians in the eastern Hallstatt zone.

Best,

Kevin
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on March 03, 2018, 04:10:17 pm: I just took better pictures and I found I have a second one. In these pics you can see the decorative pattern better. Are they Hallstett?

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/coins2/12193q00.jpg)
197.5g, 82mm largest external diameter

(https://www.forumancientcoins.com/coins2/12144q00.jpg)
weight? (too heavy for my scale), 117mm largest external diameter
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: SC on March 04, 2018, 03:22:50 pm: I wouldn't call it Hallstatt just because of the shape. The shape is too simple. Need to identify the engraving style and I have no references for that.

SC
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on July 08, 2020, 09:57:23 am: Bump. These may be African. Anyone know?
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on December 10, 2022, 12:00:08 pm: Bump. Still trying to figure these out. Anyone?
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: SC on December 11, 2022, 09:48:07 am: I see no reason it wouldn't be Roman. If it had snake heads at the ends I would be certain.

The problem is not having a match to the design - which was likely a local one anyway.

SC
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: quadrans on February 08, 2023, 02:27:29 am: IMO something early Celtic or other “barbaric” but not the Hallstatt type,

I saw several similar pieces in the Balkan region …

Joe
Title: Re: Bronze Bracelet (2), 197.5g, 81.8mm
Post by: Joe Sermarini on February 08, 2023, 09:18:28 pm: Thanks Joe