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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Ancient Coin Forum => Topic started by: Montmercure on September 23, 2021, 01:06:23 pm

Title: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: Montmercure on September 23, 2021, 01:06:23 pm
Hello everyone,
I (again) need your knowledge.
I spotted a coin recently sold (Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius), this piece is encapsulated via NGC which indicated on its certificate: "edge cuts" ... what does this expression mean? ???

Thank you in advance for your knowledge
Title: Re: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: Montmercure on September 25, 2021, 09:29:24 am
I joint the copy of the certificat box, if it can help  :(
Title: Re: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: dwarf on September 25, 2021, 10:54:59 am
You have to look at the rim (edge) of the coin to see the cuts in person.
Which you can't, as the the coin is encapsuled.
Another reason for not buying coins in coffins.

Regards
Klaus
Title: Re: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: Montmercure on September 26, 2021, 11:45:33 am
Thanks for this interesting point of view .... that I share. ;D

Aren't certification houses required to keep photo proof of the "flaws" they advertise and which become invisible due to encapsulation?

François
Title: Re: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: Joe Sermarini on September 26, 2021, 12:15:34 pm
The only thing they are required to do is what they impose upon themselves, there really are no applicable rules or laws. 

I think I see a very very tiny cut on the edge below the upper left prong.
Title: Re: "Edge cuts" on ngc certificate for Vespasian. AD 69-79. Æ Dupondius ... kezako ?
Post by: Montmercure on September 27, 2021, 02:39:51 am
you're right
I have found better views (below).
We actually see a series of 4 "incisions" to the left of the upper right prong.

Seeing the detail of the coin, the grade "Ch XF" seems very optimistic to me  :-\

Bonne soirée
François