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Offline benito

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Slabs
« on: August 25, 2011, 10:06:12 am »
We have a sexton in our midst.  ;D

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 11:05:14 am »
You talking about that Nero in the member gallery?

He usually cracks them out...no big deal  ::)
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Re: Slabs
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 11:11:42 am »
Then he will be pardoned.

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 04:10:48 pm »
Slabs do take the fun out of tossing 1900 y/o coins at people shouting "catch."

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 08:56:30 pm »
Just say no to slabbing ancients.  ;)

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 09:07:35 pm »
I hate how slabs make ancients look completely different.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-54258

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Re: Slabs
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Re: Slabs
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 01:41:05 am »
Yes, oh holy and benevolent benito, I see that I have displeased you by having  not removed my coin from it's slab in a speedy enough manner. I beg your forgiveness, please grant me this pardon. ;)

I bought this coin slabbed, and I do I plan on breaking it out eventually, I just had some trouble cracking the last slab I busted open, and ended up having to do it pretty roughly... it was quite a mess and I came close to damaging my coin. So I will likely wait untill I can use the proper tools at a friend's house.
 Here, I include a pic of my last removal, of a Sestertius of Severus Alexander, which is breathing much easier out of it's tomb indeed. Plus I love to be able to hold the coins themselves in my hands.

I am not a fan of slabs for ancients either, and find that there are too many factors to just have a grade and two 0/5 categories to explain the condition of a 2000 year old coin.

I am a bit surprised you started a thread about my coin..... and my lack of removing it from a slab..... You have a great collection benito, I am quite impressed with many of your coins.

Here is my last removal..... it was an ANACS holder.


*** Link trouble, so I include a link to the photos below where the img should be and I attached some as well for quick and easy viewing.... ***

right after the breakout:

link: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-59140

here it is out of the holder, photo w/ flash:

link: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-61405

and some more of it outside of it's prison:


link: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-68759


link: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-68758

obv:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-68761

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-68760

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Emperor Severus Alexander (222 - 232 AD)
Struck at the Rome Mint in 232 AD. AE Sestertius.

obv: IMP ALEXANDER PIVS AVG - Laureate bust right, seen from front, draped and cuirassed.
rev: MARS VLTOR - SC below - Mars with spear and shield in the 'Ready-for-Action' position.
22.3 grams.
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Re: Slabs
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 02:34:50 am »
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"Slabs do take the fun out of tossing 1900 y/o coins at people shouting "catch.""
Heh, Randy.
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Here is another one I took out of it's slab... it was certified by one of those less than perfect certification companies 'National Numismatic Certification' sometimes called NNC, as I am sure many of you have heard of.... this coin they had graded as being "AU-50" heh...... I could tell the flan was a large flan when it was inside the slab, so when I got it out, alot easier this time since it had been opened already, it kinda peeled in two. I weighed it with my digital coin scale, the coin all by itself of course, and it weighed in at an even 5.0 Grams.... that is pretty heavy for a Postumus era Antoninianus. So I like the weight and the large flan, plus the portrait and obv are quite nice, the reverse less so. My only coin with Moneta right now.

I was told this one was likely from the Cologne or Lyons mint, but no one can tell me for sure.... My knowledge of Roman Empire coins kinda dies off for a while after the time of Valerian (and even with Valerian and Gallienus Ants I can very rarely tell the mint by looking at the coins, and am not sure where most of the ones I have of Gallienus, Salonina and Valerian I were struck).... so I know little of telling Gallic mints apart.... so if anyone knows which mint this Postumus Antoninianus is from, that would be great info for me to have.


So anyway, yes I like this coin alot more now that it is slab-free, I keep it in an envelope(same thing I do with most of my Roman and Ancient Coins), a small kind of envelope, little 2inch by 2 inch ones I buy at my local coin shop so I can take it out and hold it, look at it, or let someone else actually hold it while I am showing and explaining it to them, which can cause some interesting reactions from people..... I also like these envelopes since I can write info about the coin on them.
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Re: Slabs
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 03:36:12 am »
"Yes, oh holy and benevolent benito, I see that I have displeased you by having  not removed my coin from it's slab in a speedy enough manner. I beg your forgiveness, please grant me this pardon. "
Neither holy nor benevolent. Displeased,certainly. No pardon and no forgiveness.
A slab in the FAC "sancta sanctorum ( holy of holies).Heresy.
I demand once again that you ,sinner, delete this monstrosity from the BOT. Otherwise the authorities in the pic below should proceed immediately erasing
Nero's coffin from their books.   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 03:42:29 am »
simple solution... if collectors stop buying them, the BS* will stop slabbing them.

(* - Bogus Slabbers)

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 04:09:07 am »
Slight error. The coffin is not in the BOT.Nevertheless, could the quaestors , or the Gods,delete it ?.
This extreme measure could be considered as a violation of the liberty of uploading coins. IMHO not in this case.   :angel:

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 04:49:04 am »
Slight error. The coffin is not in the BOT.Nevertheless, could the quaestors , or the Gods,delete it ?.
This extreme measure could be considered as a violation of the liberty of uploading coins. IMHO not in this case.   :angel:


We would never delete a coin from a member's gallery.

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Re: Slabs
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 08:10:09 am »
"Yes, oh holy and benevolent benito, I see that I have displeased you by having  not removed my coin from it's slab in a speedy enough manner. I beg your forgiveness, please grant me this pardon. "
Neither holy nor benevolent. Displeased,certainly. No pardon and no forgiveness.
A slab in the FAC "sancta sanctorum ( holy of holies).Heresy.
I demand once again that you ,sinner, delete this monstrosity from the BOT. Otherwise the authorities in the pic below should proceed immediately erasing
Nero's coffin from their books.   ;D ;D ;D



Yeah, as someone said above, I dont have this in the BOT gallery, the coin is far inferior for such a place, I could see why someone would cal that 'Heresy'.
Benito, I don't know whether you are joking or semi-joking with all the 'happy faces' or if you are just being a serious jerk giving me a hard time over some trivial stuff, which is it?
  And, kidding/sarcasm or not (I seriously don't know) I am not going to delete the photos I took of a perfectly good coin, just because it is inside a slab. Well I didn't pay to slab the thing, nor would I with an Ancient Coin. In fact I paid less for this one slabbed than I would have for an unslabbed coin of the same type, thats the same reason I ended up with the MARS ULTOR sestertius of Severus Alexander, and the certified Postumus coin so I took the good deals I could when I could, slab or no slab, a good deal is a good deal, and that's the beauty of buying a pre-certified coin for cheap..... you can always crack it out.
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And Enodia... I think most collectors did stop buying them (the bogus certification companies coins that is) or at least started buying them for even less than the coin is worth, and I believe that could be part of the reason I got some of my pre-certified coins for well under their value, even though I bought most of them quite a few years back. I mean the ANACS one was a decent company and so is NGC, for World Coins and US stuff. But that 'NNC' crap seems to be all over the internet.... half the time they cannot tell a Caracalla denarius from one of Elagabalus, or I have even seen coins of Elagabalus (218 - 222 AD) labelled as being of 'Antoninus Pius (138 - 161 AD)' and plenty of 'antoninianii' labelled as 'denarii' and vice versa.... things that seasoned collectors would notice, but an unsuspecting buyer might not.

 

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