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Offline Dean B2

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ID need (1)
« on: October 27, 2010, 04:24:46 pm »
Any ID please.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 05:08:16 pm »

Severus Alexander / Serapis standing left, ...DIS NEWK, almost certainly Nicomedia (Bithynia, Asia Minor), where the same reverse type with a DIS NEWK legend was common, although Isegrim does not record this reverse type for Sev. Alexander in particular.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 05:06:41 pm »

Severus Alexander / Serapis standing left, ...DIS NEWK, almost certainly Nicomedia (Bithynia, Asia Minor), where the same reverse type with a DIS NEWK legend was common, although Isegrim does not record this reverse type for Sev. Alexander in particular.

Thx for help.Where can I search about this reverse type?
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 05:10:40 pm »

http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/anmelden.html
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search-string rt:sarapis rt:man standing hl rs:.*dis newk.*
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 07:00:31 pm »
Isn't Serapis actually siting on this coin?

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 07:26:27 pm »


It looks to be the normal/typical stance for Serapis the chlamys around his waist gives the appearance of "sitting" - short leg effect

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 12:17:58 am »
Thanks Charlie, what was confusing me was the lower left part of the picture looked like two chair legs offset in the background.

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 05:27:01 pm »

http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/anmelden.html
"anonymous,english"
"Search Asia Minor"
search-string rt:sarapis rt:man standing hl rs:.*dis newk.*

I still can't find any ID on this Serapis version.One more try with larger photo ... I will be gratefull for any help?

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 09:24:46 am »
I admit that I got to the wall and I do not know where and what to look more about this coin.
I would be grateful for information about the value taking into account the reverse type and condition of the coin???
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2010, 09:49:18 am »
Maybe $20-$40 if people don't notice the bronze disease though it could be much less if you sold it on Ebay.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2010, 10:48:40 am »
Maybe $20-$40 if people don't notice the bronze disease though it could be much less if you sold it on Ebay.

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2010, 11:14:44 am »
Rare does not equal valueable, especially for anything that's not Roman Imperial.  Condition matters most of all but even in absolutely perfect condition this coin could never be a $1000+ coin, whereas a nice sestertius that's nicely written up and presented can go for many thousands, sometimes even millions.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2010, 11:24:57 am »
Rare does not equal valueable, especially for anything that's not Roman Imperial.  Condition matters most of all but even in absolutely perfect condition this coin could never be a $1000+ coin, whereas a nice sestertius that's nicely written up and presented can go for many thousands, sometimes even millions.

Yes, I am familiar with the parameters that determine the value of coins when it comes to the nominal value and condition.Yet I hoped something a bit higher.
Thx for your time and help.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2010, 11:36:09 am »
Rare does not equal valueable, especially for anything that's not Roman Imperial.  Condition matters most of all but even in absolutely perfect condition this coin could never be a $1000+ coin, whereas a nice sestertius that's nicely written up and presented can go for many thousands, sometimes even millions.

Like this one. 2000000 Swiss Francs. Not particularly rare but in fine condition.

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2010, 11:39:55 am »
Rare does not equal valueable, especially for anything that's not Roman Imperial.  Condition matters most of all but even in absolutely perfect condition this coin could never be a $1000+ coin, whereas a nice sestertius that's nicely written up and presented can go for many thousands, sometimes even millions.

Like this one. 2000000 Swiss Francs. Not particularly rare but in fine condition.

As usual forgot the pic   :-[

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2010, 01:51:11 pm »
Rare does not equal valueable, especially for anything that's not Roman Imperial.  Condition matters most of all but even in absolutely perfect condition this coin could never be a $1000+ coin, whereas a nice sestertius that's nicely written up and presented can go for many thousands, sometimes even millions.

Like this one. 2000000 Swiss Francs. Not particularly rare but in fine condition.

As usual forgot the pic   :-[

It is an amazing coin no doubt, but 2 million dollars is a little steep.

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2010, 03:44:51 pm »

Dean, it sounds now as if what you primarily wanted was a kind of conjectural appraisal for your coin, not a bad thing to want, but less useful than learning to gauge for yourself what makes some coins more valuable than others.  As I noted at first, your own coin's reverse type is unlisted for Sev. Alexander but is tolerably common for other rulers; if you want to gauge what your coin's worth, you should probably compare it to other small semi-scarce Roman provincials in more or less similar condition.  The point then wouldn't be to do more research on this particular Sev. Al. reverse -- we've researched it already -- but to see what small, semi-scarce Roman provincials habitually bring. If you went to the Nicomedia page on Wildwinds

http://wildwinds.com/coins/greece/bithynia/nicomedia/t.html

you would locate an entry for a Maximus Serapis in quite similar condition to yours; if you then did the Isegrim search from Reply #3, you would see that the Maximus issue is also quite rare, only one specimen listed in Isegrim, and a right-facing specimen at that.  But the specimen on Wildwinds was bought for just $8, not that it couldn't bring more than that, but that it clearly wasn't a treasure.  So what your coin might reasonably bring is somewhere between $8 and $40.
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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 10:05:44 am »

Dean, it sounds now as if what you primarily wanted was a kind of conjectural appraisal for your coin, not a bad thing to want, but less useful than learning to gauge for yourself what makes some coins more valuable than others.

I'm sorry if I left that impression, because to me money is not the first place when it comes to antique coins.
Although I am a trader I have to admit that every antique item to me in the first place causes the passion and pleasure, perhaps due to the fact that I was born in a place full of history traces back to ancient times.
In any case, I am grateful for your help.

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Re: ID need (1)
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 12:35:36 pm »
It is an amazing coin no doubt, but 2 million dollars is a little steep.

Just a little ;)
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