fake provincials

[Bacchus]

I don't like these at all,

First on is
"Diadumenian 218AD, Nikopolis AE30"

Item number: 110258825594 -

Source Bulgaria; Private bidding etc.  There are a few others there - all in great condition including a Claudius Albinus - all in the same condition -- warning flags all over the place


And a real one at the bottom.  There are two reverse dies of this type (that I know about) and this is not one of them.


Malcolm

[areich]

I see what you mean, I don't like that portrait.

[Bacchus]

Yes - here is another one

"Clodius Albinus 193-195 AD, AE28mm, Paultalia"

[Bacchus]

"Julia Doman Serdica, 193-217 AD, AE28mm"

[Bacchus]

"Gordian III 238-244 AD medallion, weight 21gr, diameter 36mm"

[Bacchus]

"Roman provincial bronze coin Septimius Severus Serdica, 193-211 AD, AE30mm"

[Bacchus]

"Roman provincial bronze coin Septimius Severus Marcianopolis, 193-211 AD, AE24mm"



This one is not as obvious but I have included it here as "guilty by association" - I am not familiar with the type

[areich]

That last one looks more convincing than the rest.

[Bacchus]

"Antonius Pius 138-161AD, AE28, Apollonia Pontika"

[Bacchus]

Yes - I'd like to see what the Septimus Severus dies for that type are - it could be OK.

Malcolm

[areich]

I can't find a picture but I'm pretty sure I once had at least one coin with a very similar obverse die.
That Antoninus Pius is also not as obviously fake to me but judging from the similar surfaces it must be.

[jon gress]

Here is a similar obverse die from my collection.  I can't find the pic of the reverse at the moment, but if I do come across it, I will post it. 

I will leave the interpretation of this up to those more knowledgeable.

[Bacchus]

"Septimius Severus 193-211 AD, Nikopolis AE3"

[slokind]

The 'pretty' ones are all pitiable, and poor Priapus has a wooden yard.  A lot of fakes powerfully reinforce my admiration for the ancients; these are such.
Pat L.

[Joe Sermarini]

Fake coin reports please. 

[maridvnvm]

The Markianopolis Septimius Severus is clearly cast rather than struck and thus is also fake.
It looks very similar to the following coin:-



from the fake reports. Published: Prokopov/Paunov Sofia 2004, no.91

I have already started on the fake reports for these as well as a few other offerings by the same seller.
Regards,
Martin

[maridvnvm]

Reports have been generated for all the fakes identified in this thread.

Also for sale by the same seller at the same time were some fake imperials with the bronzes having been repatinated and crustified:-

A Septimius Severus aureus created from a combination of known fake dies


A well known Vetranio


A Prokopov published Licinius II


A Herrenius Etruscus that is new to me


A Laelianus that we already had an example of in the reports


There were a few Greeks most of which I won't bother with but this example from Thasos is new to me. It is a Centaur and nymph rather than the usual satyr and nymph. If anyone has a reference for this that I could add to the reports then it would be much appreciated.


Regards,
Martin

[Hydatius]

Also for sale by the same seller at the same time were some fake imperials with the bronzes having been repatinated and crustified:-

'Crustified'.  I like that.  I hope the editors of the next edition of the OED read these boards.   

Richard

[maridvnvm]

Richard,
I just couldn't resist it after the word popped into my head! 
Regards,
Martin

[Bacchus]

Yet another Provincial fake has appeared

Malcolm

[Serial_Zappist]

Here is a similar obverse die from my collection.  I can't find the pic of the reverse at the moment, but if I do come across it, I will post it. 

I will leave the interpretation of this up to those more knowledgeable.

Is the reverse of this coin an eagle holding a wreath?
If so i have this coin too.......
Same obverse anyway.
Recieved it with a certificate of authenticity and it still had some dirt on it.
I think its a die match on the front though.....
Rather than go through the trouble of  takeing new pictures atm i decided to pul the picture of it from ebay and save it to my comp, ill take pictures later and repost em.

 Septimius Severus - Bronze 25mm
Struck in the city of Markianopolis in Moesia Inferior
Struck circa 193-211 A.D. under Legate Flavius Ulpianus
Reference: Pick 580; Moushmov 385 

Obverse  AV K Ë CEÐT CEVHPOC, laureate & draped bust right

Reverse ÕÖË OVËÐIANOV MAPKIANOÐOËIT, Eagle standing, facing on thunderbolt, head right, with wreath in beak.