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Buying and Selling => Forum's Coins and Antiquities Consignment Shop => Topic started by: Aleph on July 31, 2015, 06:49:40 pm

Title: Old collection tags
Post by: Aleph on July 31, 2015, 06:49:40 pm

When an old provenance is in the description, does this usually mean that the old tags are also included?  The specific coin in question:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1658&zpg=80240

Thanks!

Title: Re: Old collection tags
Post by: curtislclay on July 31, 2015, 06:57:31 pm

Joe S. will certainly be able to tell you whether any tags accompany this particular coin.

In general, it should not be expected that coins with old provenances will also be accompanied by old tickets. If tickets are present, generally they will be specifically mentioned in the description.

Title: Re: Old collection tags
Post by: Aleph on July 31, 2015, 07:32:31 pm

Thanks, Curtis.  That is what I thought.  What got me curious is wondering how the provenance is assigned.  If a coin has no tags, no documented sales in a listing, and is not listed as a plate coin, then how does one attribute provenance?  I am curious to hear from Joe.

Kevin

Title: Re: Old collection tags
Post by: curtislclay on July 31, 2015, 07:46:28 pm

In this particular case, I would suppose that Lindgren donated a group of coins to the Butte College Foundation, which the Foundation is now selling via Forvm.

So the authority for the provenance is the Foundation's statement regarding the source of the coins, which is now being repeated by Forvm in their descriptions.

Title: Re: Old collection tags
Post by: Joe Sermarini on July 31, 2015, 09:06:45 pm

Curtis is correct, except that the Butte College Foundation sold the entire group as a single lot. Forum made the highest offer and bought them.

Nearly all the coins do have Lindgren's tags. I will not be in the office until Monday to check this one in particular. His tags are, however, hand written on scraps of paper without much concern for appearance, and most do not name him or his firm Antioch Associates. The Forum tag will include the Lindgren provenance.