Edward (III?) Penny London Mint Assist with SCBC and North Numbers

[Joe Sermarini]

Edward (III?) Penny London Mint Assist with SCBC and North Numbers.

1.380g, 18.1mm, 45 deg axis

+ EDWA REX ANGL DNS hVB (or similar, double struck so not clear, closed E's, wedge tailed R)
CIVITAS LONDON (closed C, Roman N's)

I have the references, but I really do not have the expertise to identify the SCBC or North numbers for this coin. The double strike on the legend is making it too much of a challenge. English coin experts, please help. Thanks.

[Joe Sermarini]

Help.

[Callimachus]

Joe:

These links might help:

First: https://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian%20Pennies%20P17.htm#Identification%20aids

Then: https://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian%20Pennies%20P1.htm#The%20groups

Based on the first picture in the first link (will enlarge if you click on it), this coin may be Edward I or II.  Look at the crown.

My experience in these is limited to verifying what the dealer said it was. So at least I had a starting point.

Good luck.

[mauseus]

Hi,
The double striking doesn't help. It is certainly not Edward III, the crown style is wrong.

I think this MAY be class XIa so Edward II. That would be North 1060, SCBC 1455.

Regards,

Mauseus

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks Callimachus and mauseus. I will post here if I think I have figured it out.

[Anaximander]

I see this Edwardian penny as Edward I, Class X, Spink SCBC 1409, 10ab2 or 10ab3; North 1038.

The double-strike makes it hard, and I was fooled for a while in my re-reading of the king's name as ЄDVVA'R (Edward Rex), but it really is ЄDWARD. In full: + ЄDVVARD R ANGL DNS hyB'

Diagnostic: the crown has bifoliate side-fleurs, so probably not class I to IX.  The W is made with two overlapping V. The R is hooked. The S is a "late" style.

That's my tuppence (2¢) on this penny.

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks Chris. I agree. It appears to be a die match to the photographed SCBC 1409 - 10ab. I believe it is 10ab2. I listed it at Edward I, SCBC 1409-10ab2, North 1038/1.