SAXBYS Sextus Pompey Neptune / Trophy Crawford 511/2

[Andrew McCabe]

I'm going to hand myself in for owning a fake and not realising it:

Top coin: currently on ebay: [link removed by Admin] (seller removed form sale after I contacted him)

Bottom coin: in my own collection: [link removed by Admin]

Retro-investigation of my source of the bottom coin shows I bought it from a NARU who had accumulated 6 negatives by the time he reached a feedback of +94 on 112 sales. I keep on advising people not to buy on ebay except from well-established dealers and it seems I broke my own advice. Live and learn more.

I will de-accession it once it's been looked at for educational purposes.

[Joe Sermarini]

Fake coin report please.

[Andrew McCabe]

Fake coin report please.

Another example of this fake Sx.Pompey has appeared on ebay: bottom coin below is currently for sale at

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[Potator II]

Sorry for you Andrew, but well spotted and thanks for sharing the info

Potator

[Andrew McCabe]

I'm accumulating examples of this cast fake on eBay. Top (of four) pics below shows another example that is being advertised on eBay from a seller with just 13 feedback:

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Same cast type, not very well hidden by a few edge serrations

[Rich Beale]

A deceptive fake, to be sure.

[Andrew McCabe]

I'm accumulating examples of this cast fake on eBay. Top (of four) pics below shows another example that is being advertised on eBay from a seller with just 13 feedback:
[BROKEN LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN]
Same cast type, not very well hidden by a few edge serrations

Two examples of this fake Sextus appeared in the last two weeks. One seller withdrew his copy. The other despite a clearly written email from me with photos of the related examples, has not replied or withdrawn the object, five days after I emailed him.

Picture of the coin currently for sale below, and of four matching examples. Permanent link here:
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The seller is saxbys-coins, and the item is eBay link [link removed by Admin]

I will be happy to remove the seller details if he changes his mind about keeping the listing.

[Philoromaos]

I doubt he will. Thats why he's on the NFSL!

[Andrew McCabe]

I'm accumulating examples of this cast fake on eBay.
Same cast type, not very well hidden by a few edge serrations

Two examples of this fake Sextus appeared in the last two weeks.

Below another example of this dangerous fake on ebay, with a starting price of $299.99, from a 100%+ve high feedback seller. I've written to the seller but the coin is still listed.

[Andrew McCabe]

I'm accumulating examples of this cast fake on eBay.
Same cast type, not very well hidden by a few edge serrations

Two examples of this fake Sextus appeared in the last two weeks.

Below another example of this dangerous fake on ebay, with a starting price of $299.99, from a 100%+ve high feedback seller. I've written to the seller but the coin is still listed.

I found another one currently for sale, this time listed at $1900 buy-it-now price, from an ebay seller with 7,200 positive feedbacks. Pic of the latest offering below.

[77HK77]

He dropped to $1140.00 - must have read this thread

[commodus]

Unlike some examples posted earlier in this thread, the example now being discussed (the last one pictured) is offered by a legitimate and respectable seller and while I have no doubts about Andrew's assessment, the seller may. He isn't the type to leave a listing up if presented with evidence that the coin is fake.

[77HK77]

Commodus,
It was meant as a joke however if he reads this thread it would be a very difficult decision not to pull the coin based on Andrew's evidence. It matches four others identically with an off center strike. The first rule I heard on this board was to always question exact matches.

Now to his side it's listed with a close weight and size ,18mm (3.76 grams), which makes it pretty good fake, he does handle a lot of coins so I suspect in hand there is nothing suspicious, why would he question it....until you do read Andrew's detective work. Keep in mind it did fool the detective until he dug a little deeper!!

[Nemonater]

The listing has been withdrawn.

[commodus]

Commodus,
It was meant as a joke however if he reads this thread it would be a very difficult decision not to pull the coin based on Andrew's evidence. It matches four others identically with an off center strike. The first rule I heard on this board was to always question exact matches.

Now to his side it's listed with a close weight and size ,18mm (3.76 grams), which makes it pretty good fake, he does handle a lot of coins so I suspect in hand there is nothing suspicious, why would he question it....until you do read Andrew's detective work. Keep in mind it did fool the detective until he dug a little deeper!!

Thanks for your reply. However, I wasn't actually replying to your post. Rather, I was specifically addresing the fact that this seller isn't one of the NFSL type guys -- and, indeed, he proved this by removing the listing and cancelling the auction.

[Andrew McCabe]

The listing has been withdrawn.

Both listings have now been withdrawn. I didn't, per Forum convention, link to or name the sellers. This type was good enough to fool me when I bought an example so I can understand others being deceived.

I have over time seen many more than the 6 now pictured. It's persistent.

[Joe Sermarini]

bump