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Offline antvwala

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Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« on: July 04, 2023, 03:40:12 pm »
Beautiful nummo of the Vandal king Hilderic: or perhaps too beautiful?
Doubt is inevitable.
Measures 11mm in diameter and weighs 1.18g. It comes from an English numismatic dealer.

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2023, 01:20:41 pm »
Could be just what you were told.  Looks right. Looks dark (how apt! it's from the Dark Ages).

Compared to these, it's a tad larger and heavier than most (if not all) contenders.  Wroth Vandals p.14 #9-10; MEC I #24-25 (0.80 gm and 0.89 gm).
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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2023, 03:37:33 pm »
Thank you.
Yes: it's bigger and heavier than any other Hilderic nummus I've been able to see or document. However it is also true that these numerals are usually typed with a smaller modulus...
I ask you if you believe it is a minted or melted coin.
I'm adding 3 more Hilderic nummi that I have in my collection for comparison... Here I am faced with a much larger die, not just a flan. And that makes me very suspicious....

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2024, 06:31:06 am »
Yes, it is.
This same seller, present on eBay, has "specialized" in the sale of nummi vandalas, quite attractive for those who do not know this coinage, probably at melts and all characterized by a diameter of about 50% greater than the correct one.

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2024, 09:38:07 am »
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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2024, 10:29:36 am »
Same seller, equally fake, sold on eBay for £60
A very rare and interesting vandal nummus minted in the name of Godas, king of Sardinia

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2024, 01:20:38 pm »
Fake coin report(s) please.
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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2024, 05:39:03 pm »
Gladly, but I don't know how to do it...

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2024, 10:45:27 am »
Go to the Fake Coin Reports (link above). Click add "add a fake report" in the header of the Fake Reports. Fill in the fields and upload with the photo. If you try, you will find you can do it.
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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2024, 07:25:31 am »
There seem to be more fakes from that period on the market at present. A South German auction house has just withdrawn some of them which had been sold earlier at another North German auction house being notorious for selling fake rare late romans (like Johannes, Marcianus, Majorianus...).

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Re: Beautiful nummo of Hilderic
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2024, 08:25:35 am »

 

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