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Offline Lech Stępniewski

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RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« on: April 04, 2022, 07:56:20 am »
When describing coins from the London mint, Roma Numismatics gives the RIC number, the Cloke-Toone number and also RML number. RML is marked as "forthcoming". Is RML an abbreviation of the title of a new reference book? "Roman Mint of London"?
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2022, 10:00:47 am »
I have no idea, it is even not mentioned in the quite extensive bibliography of Roma: https://www.romanumismatics.com/index.php?option=com_bibliography&task=getBibliography&alphabet=R

But you could just write them and ask :).

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2022, 10:17:41 am »
But you could just write them and ask :).

Yes, I know. But I thought it might be obvious to someone here, and it's easier to write on the forum.
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2022, 04:49:42 pm »
RML is the abbreviation of Roman Mint of London by Ken Elks, a forthcoming reference work.
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2022, 07:53:37 pm »
Thank you, Dominic. Maybe you also know the reason to prepare another reference book about London mint after the Cloke-Toone book?
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2022, 03:13:57 am »
Hi,

The Elks book has been in preparation a long, long time (I've seen bits of an early draft a number of years ago) and was started before Hugh and Lee began work on their book.

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2022, 06:18:28 am »
Hi Mauseus.

Since Roma Numismatics gives numbers assigned to specific varieties, I guess that means the book has been completed and the author is looking for a publisher. Perhaps it exists in electronic form. But I don't know what the point is of giving numbers from a book that is practically non-existent.
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2022, 05:56:45 pm »
Thank you, Dominic. Maybe you also know the reason to prepare another reference book about London mint after the Cloke-Toone book?

The answer from Mr. Elks himself: « Essentially it will be the same, as we were both dealing with the same material. However,  some of what I wrote deals with different aspects of the subject and sets it into context.  To some extent, I believe that both works have equal validity and usefulness.  Being somewhat later in publishing my book does include coins not known to Hugh and Lee ».

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2022, 06:52:58 pm »
Thank you again, Dominic.

Being somewhat later in publishing my book does include coins not known to Hugh and Lee ».

Is Mr. Elks not aware that Cloke and Toone have prepared a 28-page supplement to their book, and there are already a bunch of coins online for the second supplement?
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2022, 08:30:41 pm »
Don’t know the answer and won’t ask…But it reminds me what happened in the beginning of the 2010’s years when a very complete book about the Antoniniani of the Gallic rulers was published with its own reference numbers…while in the same time Mairat was completing his super 800 pages (without the plates !) thesis about the coinage of the Gallic Empire. Sadly one of them was completely forgotten… I hope it won’t happen again.
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2022, 05:37:20 am »
I am familiar with Mairat's thesis. Admittedly, the Gallic empire is not my area of interest, but I am a fan of electronic sources and fully illustrated catalogs. Over four hundred color plates is something I don't think any publisher would accept. The book would probably then have to cost a fortune.

The only thing I don't like is the placement of several small pictures on one plate - like in traditional books. They can be enlarged, but to a limited extent. The author probably collected much bigger pictures, so if such a catalog was made in the form of a website the result would be much better.
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2022, 11:56:04 am »
Hi,

Schulzki’s book on Gallic antoniniani, from 1997(?), was forgotten because it wasn't a success. Weder’s corrections and additions from the two SNR papers are needed.

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2022, 07:49:23 pm »
In fact I was talking about the Parisot/Prieur/Schmidt’s book from 2011.

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2022, 03:19:48 am »
They made a better go of it than Schulzki from what I recall, having looked through a copy some time back.

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2022, 02:10:37 pm »
"Is Mr. Elks not aware that Cloke and Toone have prepared a 28-page supplement to their book, and there are already a bunch of coins online for the second supplement?"

Did Mr. Elks mention when or where his book will be available for purchase?

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2022, 02:27:51 pm »
He wrote in a private conversation: « Once my book has been published, which should be soon now, I intend to update the online version of the London mint ».
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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2022, 02:29:23 pm »
Great, thanks.

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Re: RML. What does this acronym stand for?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2022, 08:40:05 am »
I worked on my book for over ten years from conception to publishing.  It was a labour of love that will never "pay" for itself no matter how many sell.  I spent time working on it as a hobby.  I lived in fear that as it approached completion someone else would publish a book on the same topic - and a better one at that.

So I have sympathy for authors whose work is "overtaken" or faces a competitor right out of the gate or soon after publishing.  Totally natural instinct to want to get it finished and published, even if to outside observers it doesn't end up adding much.  (And of course we don't know if that is the case here.)

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